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13:7 - Din Djarin vs. Fox McCloud


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SEASON 13, ROUND 7

Din Djarin

Slot: The Team's Hunter
Season Wins: 1
Season Losses: 0
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Fox McCloud

Slot: The Team's Anthropromophic Animal
Season Wins: 1
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Hunter vs. Hunted: Forrest

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Din has literal plot armor. 

Though deforestation is out of character. 

Still I don't think lasers or rocket boots is the best way to save the forest and this will probably become a PSA for Smokey the bear. 

I think it will be a good fight but Din prevails in the end. Sorry Fox

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Fox whose arsenal includes tanks, the great fox, personal shields, and his cybernetics. Beskar is not unbeatable, in season 2 we saw Din taken down by a hail of blaster fire, he has been physically overpowered and Fix fights dinosaurs, and in Season 3 we saw Din go down to simple pitfall traps.

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1 hour ago, Twogunkid said:

Fox whose arsenal includes tanks, the great fox, personal shields, and his cybernetics. Beskar is not unbeatable, in season 2 we saw Din taken down by a hail of blaster fire, he has been physically overpowered and Fix fights dinosaurs, and in Season 3 we saw Din go down to simple pitfall traps.

So his plan is to break out the heavy artillery and destroy the very forest he's supposed to save?

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5 minutes ago, Mercenaryblade said:

So his plan is to break out the heavy artillery and destroy the very forest he's supposed to save?

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Forests are big and the Landmaster's weapon doesn't actually make explosions or start fires.

And even if we say on foot.

Din vs the Mudhorn

and even if we take Din's most impressive feat Din & Cobb Vannth & Tusken Tribe & Citizens of Mos Pelgo vs a Krayt Dragon

 

Those both pale in comparison to

Fox vs a planet of dinosaurs basically alone.

 

Mando's best bet to leveling the Forest is in the Razor Crest or the N-1 and there is no beating Fox McCloud in ship to ship combat.

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53 minutes ago, Twogunkid said:

Forests are big and the Landmaster's weapon doesn't actually make explosions or start fires.

And even if we say on foot.

Din vs the Mudhorn

and even if we take Din's most impressive feat Din & Cobb Vannth & Tusken Tribe & Citizens of Mos Pelgo vs a Krayt Dragon

 

Those both pale in comparison to

Fox vs a planet of dinosaurs basically alone.

 

Mando's best bet to leveling the Forest is in the Razor Crest or the N-1 and there is no beating Fox McCloud in ship to ship combat.

Landmaster would totally cause fires and deforestation it shoots lasers not to mention the booster beneath itif Fox ever activates those. 

Mudhorn fight was before he had the Beskar update.   

Except Fox had Krystal's staff for all of those fights, and he returned that to Krystal who... never used it again herself. 

As cool as N1 vs Arwing would be that isn't happening when Mando is perfectly capable of settling this on foot, and Fox is more than willing to engage him. 

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41 minutes ago, Mercenaryblade said:

Landmaster would totally cause fires and deforestation it shoots lasers not to mention the booster beneath itif Fox ever activates those. 

Mudhorn fight was before he had the Beskar update.   

Except Fox had Krystal's staff for all of those fights, and he returned that to Krystal who... never used it again herself. 

As cool as N1 vs Arwing would be that isn't happening when Mando is perfectly capable of settling this on foot, and Fox is more than willing to engage him. 

Blunt Trauma is effective vs Beskar. I don't think the Mudhorn fight ends in a significantly different way with it.

The Landmaster uses G-Diffusers for boosting, so no, it is not creating fires. It is using anti-gravity technology.

It uses a blaster cannon and can use smart bombs and missiles, but the blaster cannon is its primary weapon.

Yes, Fox uses Crystal's staff, but the majority of it is him outwitting and outlasting dinosaurs on his own. No support from Baby Yoda or a tribe of Tuskens, a town, and a lawman in Boba's armor.

Fox is not without his own footbased protection in the form of the barrier sphere. (using it's Star Fox game not Smash Brothers effect, because shine reflecting instead of absorbing damage is unique to smash brothers.)

Fox will go and do things like invade the Aparoid homeworld and he is the entire ground command team. (Star Fox assault mission 9). Mando may take a squad of super commandos and storm a light cruiser, but that's nothing on Fox vs the Aparoid homeworld or battling his way through Sauria.

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9 minutes ago, Twogunkid said:

Blunt Trauma is effective vs Beskar. I don't think the Mudhorn fight ends in a significantly different way with it.

The Landmaster uses G-Diffusers for boosting, so no, it is not creating fires. It is using anti-gravity technology.

It uses a blaster cannon and can use smart bombs and missiles, but the blaster cannon is its primary weapon.

Yes, Fox uses Crystal's staff, but the majority of it is him outwitting and outlasting dinosaurs on his own. No support from Baby Yoda or a tribe of Tuskens, a town, and a lawman in Boba's armor.

Fox is not without his own footbased protection in the form of the barrier sphere. (using it's Star Fox game not Smash Brothers effect, because shine reflecting instead of absorbing damage is unique to smash brothers.)

Fox will go and do things like invade the Aparoid homeworld and he is the entire ground command team. (Star Fox assault mission 9). Mando may take a squad of super commandos and storm a light cruiser, but that's nothing on Fox vs the Aparoid homeworld or battling his way through Sauria.

Blasters are heat-based weapons they totally would start a forest fire. Smart bombs and missiles also would cause a lot of devastation. Which is counterproductive to the match parameters.

Din uses his wits too, he flushed Dark Troopers out of a ship, and he seems to survive blunt trauma without really sustaining injuries.  

The barrier sphere is impressive but nothing that isn't too dissimilar to Star Wars technology. 

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3 minutes ago, Mercenaryblade said:

Blasters are heat-based weapons they totally would start a forest fire. Smart bombs and missiles also would cause a lot of devastation. Which is counterproductive to the match parameters.

Din uses his wits too, he flushed Dark Troopers out of a ship, and he seems to survive blunt trauma without really sustaining injuries.  

The barrier sphere is impressive but nothing that isn't too dissimilar to Star Wars technology. 

Personal shields are not a very effective tech in Star Wars. They generate a ton of heat. The electroshields seen in Mandalorian Vambraces or the Gungan shields in the Phantom Menace are the pinnacle of what people can carry and these are essentially just lighter versions of physical shields. Destroyer Droids can carry more advanced shields because they can handle all the heat it generates. Indeed shield technology in Star Wars overheats when overstressed (Just bombard for a few more seconds Thrawn, you had them). Fox's personal barrier is way better than Star Wars tech. Further, Star Wars differentiates between Ray Shields (for energy weapons) and particle shields (for solid projectiles) whereas Fox's Barrier sphere handles both fine. The particle shield also seems to be limited in the speed of the projectile because rolled hand grenades could go through them.

Sustained Fire (which Fox can put out) can take down even Beskar clad warriors A few moments of sustained blaster fire drive Din to the ground in the second season. Fox has access to machine and gatling guns as well as heavier weaponry like rocket launchers, grenades, sniper rifles, and vehicular weapons. He even on foot can put out enough firepower to down Mando.

Further even if a tank battle were to occur in the forest, tank battles took places in forest in our real world. The forest remains. The Ardennes had two tank battles fought in it between 1939-1944 and remained a forest. The second battle of the Ardennes even had allied air command and infantry fighting going on, and the Ardennes forest survived as a forest. 1 Landmaster or 1 Arwing or the Great Fox cratering one bounty hunter is not going to level the forest. I do not think a blaster has ever produced fire in a Star Fox game or tie in media depictions. For that matter, Star Wars blasters, which are confirmed to be plasma bolts, don't seem to start fires either. I don't think Fox's arsenal is in any danger of burning down the whole forest.

Looking at it head to head on foot

Din has his Beskar, Fox has his barriers

Din has his disintegration rifle, Fox has the demon sniper

Din has his blaster pistol, so does Fox, but Fox's can charge more powerful shots

Din has his beskar spear or the dark saber. Fox has Krystal's staff. (Neither Fox nor Din have these items anymore)

Din and Fox both have explosives of the thrown variety

Both have access to jetpacks

Fox has access to a rocket launcher, machine and gatling blasters, and a tank. Din has his jetpack rocket (although I do not remember him ever firing one)

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1 hour ago, Twogunkid said:

Personal shields are not a very effective tech in Star Wars. They generate a ton of heat. The electroshields seen in Mandalorian Vambraces or the Gungan shields in the Phantom Menace are the pinnacle of what people can carry and these are essentially just lighter versions of physical shields. Destroyer Droids can carry more advanced shields because they can handle all the heat it generates. Indeed shield technology in Star Wars overheats when overstressed (Just bombard for a few more seconds Thrawn, you had them). Fox's personal barrier is way better than Star Wars tech. Further, Star Wars differentiates between Ray Shields (for energy weapons) and particle shields (for solid projectiles) whereas Fox's Barrier sphere handles both fine. The particle shield also seems to be limited in the speed of the projectile because rolled hand grenades could go through them.

Sustained Fire (which Fox can put out) can take down even Beskar clad warriors A few moments of sustained blaster fire drive Din to the ground in the second season. Fox has access to machine and gatling guns as well as heavier weaponry like rocket launchers, grenades, sniper rifles, and vehicular weapons. He even on foot can put out enough firepower to down Mando.

Further even if a tank battle were to occur in the forest, tank battles took places in forest in our real world. The forest remains. The Ardennes had two tank battles fought in it between 1939-1944 and remained a forest. The second battle of the Ardennes even had allied air command and infantry fighting going on, and the Ardennes forest survived as a forest. 1 Landmaster or 1 Arwing or the Great Fox cratering one bounty hunter is not going to level the forest. I do not think a blaster has ever produced fire in a Star Fox game or tie in media depictions. For that matter, Star Wars blasters, which are confirmed to be plasma bolts, don't seem to start fires either. I don't think Fox's arsenal is in any danger of burning down the whole forest.

Looking at it head to head on foot

Din has his Beskar, Fox has his barriers

Din has his disintegration rifle, Fox has the demon sniper

Din has his blaster pistol, so does Fox, but Fox's can charge more powerful shots

Din has his beskar spear or the dark saber. Fox has Krystal's staff. (Neither Fox nor Din have these items anymore)

Din and Fox both have explosives of the thrown variety

Both have access to jetpacks

Fox has access to a rocket launcher, machine and gatling blasters, and a tank. Din has his jetpack rocket (although I do not remember him ever firing one)

Fox's defense orb can only take so much though and Mando has enough firepower to do that. It's not going to be a game changer. Also can't he only use it and not any weapons at the time? He can't just spam it and expect to win. 

Fox could try using sustained fire but it's not like he has a squad hammeirng Mando from all sides and Mando isn't going to just stay in place for that, even with his armor hes mobile and still does basic things like take cover. Also again the objective is to save the forest and if Fox is pumping out a barrage of blasterfire it's going to set something on fire. Not good optics for our animal crusader.  

Those tanks weren't using laser weapons in ww2. 

Also those forest take a long time to grow back from war. Here's post battle forest:

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Blaster fire causes sparks and small explosions and scorch marks, logically that would very likely cause a fire. Let's look at Greedo post death

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Smoke and a blackened corpse, he's also less flammable then wood. You have two combatants trying to kill each other with similar weapons in an area full of kindling.  

Again the objective is to stop the hunter from destroying the woods, not doing more damage than they already were by cratering the area. Especially with high yield weapons. That's essentially doing their job for them. Fox would probably want to start with the least amount of force required. 

Din also has whistling birds which seek out their targe, and a flamethrower, more chances to start a fire. 

One huge disadvantage Fox has is not being able to carry all of his weapons with him. Din has several built into his armor. 

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There are plenty of sections of the Ardennes that were intact

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and Fox doesn't need to level the forest. He just needs to blow up one Mando which he more than has the firepower to do. Even if Fox doesn't use the landmaster's gun, he's more than capable of crushing Mando with his tank.

Sparks on Greedo does speak to blaster fires I will concede that, but unless this forest is extremely dried out, I don't see a Forest fire being a problem from a few blaster bolts.

 

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2 hours ago, Twogunkid said:

There are plenty of sections of the Ardennes that were intact

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and Fox doesn't need to level the forest. He just needs to blow up one Mando which he more than has the firepower to do. Even if Fox doesn't use the landmaster's gun, he's more than capable of crushing Mando with his tank.

Sparks on Greedo does speak to blaster fires I will concede that, but unless this forest is extremely dried out, I don't see a Forest fire being a problem from a few blaster bolts.

 

Mostly being covered in snow at the time helped, plenty of parts that were destroyed too. Plenty of other forests that weren't as lucky. There's some that are just now recovering from WW1! The war in Ukraine is also proving to be quite costly on an environmental level too. Point is if Fox's goal is to conserve the forest heavy weaponry isn't the way to go, like smashing through in a Landmaster just to get one guy. 

A few blaster bolts? No, we both know there's going to be more than a few exchanged here. The longer this goes on the more likely there's not going to be much of a forest left to protect.   

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7 hours ago, Mercenaryblade said:

Mostly being covered in snow at the time helped, plenty of parts that were destroyed too. Plenty of other forests that weren't as lucky. There's some that are just now recovering from WW1! The war in Ukraine is also proving to be quite costly on an environmental level too. Point is if Fox's goal is to conserve the forest heavy weaponry isn't the way to go, like smashing through in a Landmaster just to get one guy. 

A few blaster bolts? No, we both know there's going to be more than a few exchanged here. The longer this goes on the more likely there's not going to be much of a forest left to protect.   

Considering the battle of Endor had more than a few blaster bolts and multiple armored vehicles firing including multiple AT-STs, and there was not a forest fire and Endor had a ton of undergrowth, I really think you are overstating the danger heavy weapons and forest fire are in this scenario.

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1 hour ago, Twogunkid said:

Considering the battle of Endor had more than a few blaster bolts and multiple armored vehicles firing including multiple AT-STs, and there was not a forest fire and Endor had a ton of undergrowth, I really think you are overstating the danger heavy weapons and forest fire are in this scenario.

Which honestly never made sense that that didn’t happen. Just like debris from the battle in space never hitting the moon. 

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14 hours ago, Mercenaryblade said:

Which honestly never made sense that that didn’t happen. Just like debris from the battle in space never hitting the moon. 

But both things did not

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36 minutes ago, Twogunkid said:

But both things did not

From what I've seen people claim Endor is actually a rainforest and too damp, however I don't think that's going to save this forest here given how bad wildfires are now. It's still a major factor when using weapons that use heat and explode, including a flamethrower on Mando.  

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I do think this is this Draft's first battle of current top contenders. :D  

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But yeah, I'll have to research this one a bit. 

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9 hours ago, Mercenaryblade said:

From what I've seen people claim Endor is actually a rainforest and too damp, however I don't think that's going to save this forest here given how bad wildfires are now. It's still a major factor when using weapons that use heat and explode, including a flamethrower on Mando.  

I've got more instances of blasters not starting fires when you would claim they should.

TIE Fighters strafe a road on a forest planet. (From Mando S2)

Thrawn bombards a populated area with capital ship weaponry and fires do not break out. (From Rebels S4)

Further, if Blasters were the excellent ignition source you claim, why would the Republic (Clone Wars TV Show S2) and the Empire (Fallen Order: Kashyyk Levels) and the First Order (Force Awakens) all have specialized flametroopers who wield actual flamethrowers? All three of those organizations don't need to avoid lightsaber wielding foes en masse which is the reason Mandalorians adopted flamethrowers and wrist launchers (Knights of the Old Republic). The flamethrowers must serve the purpose of actually being fire starting weapons.

Fox can safely deploy his Landmaster or Arwing and deal with this toot de suite.

Mando has a few seconds of flamethrower usage, some detonators, and a jetpack that uses flames (unlock Fox's which uses G-Diffusers). I will concede forest fires have been started with less (although Mando probably isn't hosting a gender reveal party), but there need to be very specific long term drought conditions leading up to it. Mando lacks the firepower needed to simply burn the forest to the ground. Fox has it if he wanted to use his nova bombs, but since he knows to "Use bombs wisely" (Star Fox 64). I don't think Mando gets that advantage.

Even if Mando starts a fire with his arsenal, Fox will have ample time to extinguish it after he takes out Din.

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1 hour ago, Twogunkid said:

I've got more instances of blasters not starting fires when you would claim they should.

TIE Fighters strafe a road on a forest planet. (From Mando S2)

Thrawn bombards a populated area with capital ship weaponry and fires do not break out. (From Rebels S4)

Further, if Blasters were the excellent ignition source you claim, why would the Republic (Clone Wars TV Show S2) and the Empire (Fallen Order: Kashyyk Levels) and the First Order (Force Awakens) all have specialized flametroopers who wield actual flamethrowers? All three of those organizations don't need to avoid lightsaber wielding foes en masse which is the reason Mandalorians adopted flamethrowers and wrist launchers (Knights of the Old Republic). The flamethrowers must serve the purpose of actually being fire starting weapons.

Fox can safely deploy his Landmaster or Arwing and deal with this toot de suite.

Mando has a few seconds of flamethrower usage, some detonators, and a jetpack that uses flames (unlock Fox's which uses G-Diffusers). I will concede forest fires have been started with less (although Mando probably isn't hosting a gender reveal party), but there need to be very specific long term drought conditions leading up to it. Mando lacks the firepower needed to simply burn the forest to the ground. Fox has it if he wanted to use his nova bombs, but since he knows to "Use bombs wisely" (Star Fox 64). I don't think Mando gets that advantage.

Even if Mando starts a fire with his arsenal, Fox will have ample time to extinguish it after he takes out Din.

Seems that's more of Star Wars tech not being consistent than me, in fact blasters not starting fires is less realistic than half of the space fantasy stuff. I also remember reading that Turbolasers could turn a planets surface to molten slag, yet we never see anything like that happen. That's more writers not understanding just how destructive Star Wars weapons would be. 

Why have flametroopers? Easy flamethrowers are a different type of weapon for mass area of effect attack vs. aiming, they also used flametroopers on Geonosis a desert planet. Not for clearing foilage but for burning out bugs. They use flametroopers in all theatres for max casulties, not for clearing foilage. I'm sure concentrated blaster fire would indeed cause a fire that would spread. It defies all logic, heat, sparks etc. Sparklers have started giant blazes.  

Fox isn't going to deploy Arwing or Landmaster to defend the forest. Not good optics for reasons already stated. It's going to be Mano Y Mando especially as Fox probably thinks Mando isn't that high of a threat level to start out with weapons that cause huge swaths of destruction. Proper use of force is something he should understand. Especially with using bombs wisely.  

So Fox goes down and confronts Mando. Fight breaks out, and since Mando's armor doesn't need to be activated like Fox's defense sphere Fox will go down first due to Mando being a fast draw.  

 

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3 minutes ago, Mercenaryblade said:

Seems that's more of Star Wars tech not being consistent than me, in fact blasters not starting fires is less realistic than half of the space fantasy stuff. I also remember reading that Turbolasers could turn a planets surface to molten slag, yet we never see anything like that happen. That's more writers not understanding just how destructive Star Wars weapons would be. 

Why have flametroopers? Easy flamethrowers are a different type of weapon for mass area of effect attack vs. aiming. I'm sure concentrated fire would indeed cause a fire that would spread. It defies all logic heat, sparks etc. Sparklers have started giant blazes.  

Dude Fox isn't going to deploy Arwing or Landmaster to defend the forest. Not good optics for reasons already stated. It's going to be Mano Y Mano especially as Fox probably thinks Mando isn't that high of a threat level to start out with weapons that cause huge swaths of destruction. Proper use of force is something he should understand. 

So Fox goes down and confronts Mando. Fight breaks out, and since Mando's armor doesn't need to be activated like Fox's defense sphere Fox will go down first due to Mando being a fast draw.  

 

I can think of after wracking my brain only two instances of blasters starting any kind of fire. 1. Greedo and 2. General Grevious. I have been a pretty hardcore Star Wars fan for a long time. I can't think of any in the Rogue Squadron, Star Wars Jedi Knight, Fallen Order, Battlefront, Jedi Academy, KOTOR, SWTOR games. I cannot think of any in the Dark Empire books, the Thrawn Trilogy, The New Thrawn trilogy, The (godawful) Cade Skywalker comic books, the current Vader or Star Wars runs 10/12 feature films, the Clone Wars TV show, the other Clone Wars TV show, Rebels, Resistance, Ahsoka, Mandalorian, Andor, or The Bad Batch. It more stands to reason that something about Rodian and Kaleeshi biology (as it was Grevious's organs) ignites when hit with blaster fire.

I will concede there may still be a niche for flamethrowers even if blasters could start fires (which it seems clear they don't)

Fox's primary way of dealing with threats has been the Arwing. That is Fox's go too. A quick strafing run and it's over. I would hardly say it's out of character for him to do that. Yeah, there will be a narrow trench of blaster fire taken out, but that's a pretty quick take out of Mando.

Those sparkler fires are in extreme drought conditions with good wind speed to spread the fire. They are abnormal weather to help it.. Besides, if we are to suppose a terrain effect on the forest it need not be one to help your cause. We could have snow, heavy rain, high humidity. I've been operating under the assumption of a fairly neutral forest with temperate conditions.

Besides, Mando is prone to ambush. Fox has his sniper rifle. Mando is a medium to short range combatant. This is particularly true after his rifle is blown up with the Razor Crest in season 2. He had help when he had to close in on Fennec Shand with a rifle and that was back when he had his own rifle. The name of the game was close to short range. Fox using his high ground speed and his own mobility options can set the engagement on his terms in the forest. Even if this somehow is an on foot confrontation.

Vehicular Fox takes this and while Mando may have more physical endurance on foot, Fox has enough other advantages to take this.

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1 hour ago, Twogunkid said:

I can think of after wracking my brain only two instances of blasters starting any kind of fire. 1. Greedo and 2. General Grevious. I have been a pretty hardcore Star Wars fan for a long time. I can't think of any in the Rogue Squadron, Star Wars Jedi Knight, Fallen Order, Battlefront, Jedi Academy, KOTOR, SWTOR games. I cannot think of any in the Dark Empire books, the Thrawn Trilogy, The New Thrawn trilogy, The (godawful) Cade Skywalker comic books, the current Vader or Star Wars runs 10/12 feature films, the Clone Wars TV show, the other Clone Wars TV show, Rebels, Resistance, Ahsoka, Mandalorian, Andor, or The Bad Batch. It more stands to reason that something about Rodian and Kaleeshi biology (as it was Grevious's organs) ignites when hit with blaster fire.

I will concede there may still be a niche for flamethrowers even if blasters could start fires (which it seems clear they don't)

Fox's primary way of dealing with threats has been the Arwing. That is Fox's go too. A quick strafing run and it's over. I would hardly say it's out of character for him to do that. Yeah, there will be a narrow trench of blaster fire taken out, but that's a pretty quick take out of Mando.

Those sparkler fires are in extreme drought conditions with good wind speed to spread the fire. They are abnormal weather to help it.. Besides, if we are to suppose a terrain effect on the forest it need not be one to help your cause. We could have snow, heavy rain, high humidity. I've been operating under the assumption of a fairly neutral forest with temperate conditions.

Besides, Mando is prone to ambush. Fox has his sniper rifle. Mando is a medium to short range combatant. This is particularly true after his rifle is blown up with the Razor Crest in season 2. He had help when he had to close in on Fennec Shand with a rifle and that was back when he had his own rifle. The name of the game was close to short range. Fox using his high ground speed and his own mobility options can set the engagement on his terms in the forest. Even if this somehow is an on foot confrontation.

Vehicular Fox takes this and while Mando may have more physical endurance on foot, Fox has enough other advantages to take this.

And yet we see massive scorch marks from blaster impacts. Again it’s more likely people ignore the obvious that heat weapons are more destructive than they are portrayed to be than biology. 

Except it would not be in character for Fox to strafe with the arwing (and again cause collateral damage. Remember this is all about saving the forest and all the cute critters that live there) mission parameters for what Fox has been hired to do would call for small scale engagement. Fox would abide by this as evidenced by him going to Sauria without a blaster because that was in the mission parameters. 
 

Sniping isn’t out of the question for either combatant but the forest offers a lot of cover and concealment. Close range is the name of the game here. 
 

Again vehicles are a non factor because of the type of mission this is. Mando has made a career hunting well armed and dangerous foes in a variety of environments. Also he has free range to cause as much damages as he can to said environment as per the scenario. 
 

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2 hours ago, Mercenaryblade said:

And yet we see massive scorch marks from blaster impacts. Again it’s more likely people ignore the obvious that heat weapons are more destructive than they are portrayed to be than biology. 

Except it would not be in character for Fox to strafe with the arwing (and again cause collateral damage. Remember this is all about saving the forest and all the cute critters that live there) mission parameters for what Fox has been hired to do would call for small scale engagement. Fox would abide by this as evidenced by him going to Sauria without a blaster because that was in the mission parameters. 
 

Sniping isn’t out of the question for either combatant but the forest offers a lot of cover and concealment. Close range is the name of the game here. 
 

Again vehicles are a non factor because of the type of mission this is. Mando has made a career hunting well armed and dangerous foes in a variety of environments. Also he has free range to cause as much damages as he can to said environment as per the scenario. 
 

The very first Star Fox level is using an Arwing in Corneria City. Fox totally is at liberty to deploy his vehicular power. The mission is to save the forest. Best to get it done quickly.

Scorch Marks but not fires. You are asserting that a fire is going to break out when blasters do not do that in either Star Wars or Star Fox.

A forest environment does offer cover and concealment. Advantage to the guy who is an anthropomorphic woodland critter and wears a lot more green and dull colors than the guy head to toe in reflective chrome.

A woods is also open enough to support sniper fire and hit and run with Fox's speed and mobility options.

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