Mythbusters: CBUB

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

I don't think you can compare Clark Kent to Bruce Wayne. I said this because, Superman is pretending to be in his mind, a normal everyday weak human.

 

While Batman and Bruce Wayne are a split personality. No, it's not so severe to where he's not in control of both, but instead he purposely keeps the two seperate.

I just saying both characters change the posture to throw off others. Keeping them from figuring out the disguise.

[Guest Artemis Entreri]

I just saying both characters change the posture to throw off others. Keeping them from figuring out the disguise.

Sorry I meant to put I agreed with that part. My mistake!

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

Sorry I meant to put I agreed with that part. My mistake!

oh ok. They are both masters of disguse as well.

[Guest Artemis Entreri]

oh ok. They are both masters of disguse as well.

 

Yes, but you gotta admit the glasses thing is funny!

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

Yes, but you gotta admit the glasses thing is funny!

yeah there are pretty silly but when you think about it who would think someone with giant black thick glasses would be superman?

[Guest Artemis Entreri]

yeah there are pretty silly but when you think about it who would think someone with giant black thick glasses would be superman?

 

Good point. But lois should have known a lot sooner!

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

Good point. But lois should have known a lot sooner!

true. someone that is around both Superman and Clark ALL the time should be a little more perceptive

[Guest KevinDWolf93]

Hmm, noones been here for awhile and Its my myth so ill wrap it up from whats been said:

 

Is "clark kenting" a horrible cover?:

 

Plausable

 

While there are several exceptions, most glaring being those who have interacted w/ both egos, given the wide set of various skills that have been given to cover up the disguise(s) (good acting chops,hypnosis, facial/muscle control,etc.) coupled with the idea of noone expecting such a hero to be anyone other than a hero, let alone a meek reporter means that the glasses and suit combo(and its variants) can be effective in of themselves. After all how can you deduce someones secret identity when you dont expect them to have one in the first place?

 

Unless anyone wants to add on that last one(or any other myths) that frees up this board for another CBUB myth to be put on trial. Anyone can pick I think, but make it a good one folks...one that can be debated(w/ scans would be nice)

[Guest Zreth]

Mind if I put in another Myth?

[Guest KevinDWolf93]

Mind if I put in another Myth?

 

Sure, Id love to get this topic up n running again. Ask away...

[Guest Zreth]

Can Batman or others really be a master of all Martial Arts?

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Probably not "all," but they do have the potential to have mastered most martial arts forms. Probably only the ones that will improve their already extensive fighting prowess.

 

However, if DC officially stated that he's the master of all forms of martial arts, then he is.

[Guest KevinDWolf93]

Needless thread revival FTW!!!!

 

I think something like this is kind of necessary...plus its fun. New ruley thingy if everyones intrested. If you look at the previous myths we at times had multiple myths going on at once. So we should keep it organized. Also if an argumetn becomes too much here...well we can always make it its own thread or whatever. Without further ado, lets begin our first myth(assuming you guys dont have one of your own, in which case feel free to disregard this)

 

 

Does Darth Vader's suit really hamper the sith that much?

We all know that the suit is both scary and functional. From my knowledge its basically one big prosthetic/life support combo. Fair enough considering his dip in lava and amputations on Mustafaar. But how much he had been cut off from his full potential seems to very where I go. On one hand he is unable to use force lightning at all and is costantly in great pain. On the other word of god states he is roughly 80% of sideous' strength at even this point. Not to mention several EU matches where he is capable of holding his own in saber duels against the likes of Darth maul and several veteran jedi(in an ambush no less). Is this seemingly inconsistent portrayal of the limitations of his cybernetics handwaved by the force like a jedi mind trick or is there a consistency to say that vader is still legitimately one of the baddest dudes in the SW universe with nothing but his saber and moves?

 

Short version: How much does the suit affect the sith? Is it enough to where he would have issues with soemone he normally wouldve been able to match/beat handily with his non-amputated body? How much of a power loss does vader suffer from being what he is?

[jesus20456]

Needless thread revival FTW!!!!

 

I think something like this is kind of necessary...plus its fun. New ruley thingy if everyones intrested. If you look at the previous myths we at times had multiple myths going on at once. So we should keep it organized. Also if an argumetn becomes too much here...well we can always make it its own thread or whatever. Without further ado, lets begin our first myth(assuming you guys dont have one of your own, in which case feel free to disregard this)

 

 

Does Darth Vader's suit really hamper the sith that much?

We all know that the suit is both scary and functional. From my knowledge its basically one big prosthetic/life support combo. Fair enough considering his dip in lava and amputations on Mustafaar. But how much he had been cut off from his full potential seems to very where I go. On one hand he is unable to use force lightning at all and is costantly in great pain. On the other word of god states he is roughly 80% of sideous' strength at even this point. Not to mention several EU matches where he is capable of holding his own in saber duels against the likes of Darth maul and several veteran jedi(in an ambush no less). Is this seemingly inconsistent portrayal of the limitations of his cybernetics handwaved by the force like a jedi mind trick or is there a consistency to say that vader is still legitimately one of the baddest dudes in the SW universe with nothing but his saber and moves?

 

Short version: How much does the suit affect the sith? Is it enough to where he would have issues with soemone he normally wouldve been able to match/beat handily with his non-amputated body? How much of a power loss does vader suffer from being what he is?

he beat obi wan, it cant affect anakin that much.

[Indolent]

he beat obi wan, it cant affect anakin that much.

Obi Wan let him beat him.

 

And its been stated that the suit limits him. With it, he can never reach the potential he had before that happened to him.

[Guest bigballerju]

Oh if you read Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Lost Command you will see the suit doesn't affect

Vader much and he is a badass. Vader is not slow like in the movies and is fast.

 

Here's a image:

 

[Guest LegendX]

Despite his injuries and his armor, Vader is still one of the most powerful Force users in the history of the SW galaxy. People tend to compare the fights from th OT and the PT and look at Vader's loss to a fairly inexperienced Luke as signs that Vader was less powerful than he was prior to Mustafar. This ignores the fact that the OT was made over thirty years ago, when the CGI we have today wasn't possible and the US didn't have the kind of fight choreography we now have. It also ignores the fact that Vader actually didn't want to hurt Luke (if you missed that you kinda missed the point of the films).

The truth is Vader was slowed down by his armor and his powers were limited by his injuries, but, that still left him extremely powerful. He was forced to alter his fighting style to keep his chest plate protected. He was unable to cast Force lightning due to not having hands and the risk of frying his circuits. And yes, he was in constant pain, but that isn't really such a bad thing for a Sith.

The Force a user wields is stored in the body. When a Force user loses body parts some of their potential is lost since they've lost some of their ability to store the Force. That doesn't mean that they lose the ability to use powers they already had, just that it'll be less potent and probably have less duration. The effective loss is almost directly proportionate to the amount of the body that is lost. It's the reason Lumiya never became a true Sith, her injuries prevented her from ever reaching her full potential. It's even been said that Luke's missing hand takes a little away from his full power.

So to answer the question, yes, Vader's armor and injuries do hamper the Sith. Without them he had the potential to destroy all opposition easily. With them he'd still dominate most and provide a strong challenge to even the most powerful Force users.

 

Edit: BTW, Obi-Wan may have sacrificed himself in ANH, but that doesn't mean he would have won the fight. If he could have beaten Vader three would have been no point in sacrificing himself.

[Guest Omega11]

If he could have beaten Vader three would have been no point in sacrificing himself.

 

Except that Anakin wouldn't have had the chance to return to the light side and Luke would likely have been cut down by stormtrooper fire while they were fighting.

[Guest LegendX]

Except that Anakin wouldn't have had the chance to return to the light side and Luke would likely have been cut down by stormtrooper fire while they were fighting.

Not really. There is zero evidence that Obi-Wan new or even thought Anakin could be redeemed. And his death really didn't help keep Luke from getting shot down. If anything having a live, lightsaber weilding Jedi Master by your side would have been far more effective.

[Guest Redemption X]

You are COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT of Mythbusters. Mythbusters is supposed to be about disproving myths that exist in real life, or disproving myths from movies or TV Shows that relate to real life (ie. showing what would "really happen" if Goldfinger painted women gold, showing what would "really happen" if a car got shot, etc.). It's not about disproving facts from comic books or Star Wars. Mythbusters would be more like "Could Vader's suit exist in real life?", "Could the Stomtroopers exist in real life?", "Could a man in real life do what Batman does?", and so on.

[Indolent]

You are COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT of Mythbusters. Mythbusters is supposed to be about disproving myths that exist in real life, or disproving myths from movies or TV Shows that relate to real life (ie. showing what would "really happen" if Goldfinger painted women gold, showing what would "really happen" if a car got shot, etc.). It's not about disproving facts from comic books or Star Wars. Mythbusters would be more like "Could Vader's suit exist in real life?", "Could the Stomtroopers exist in real life?", "Could a man in real life do what Batman does?", and so on.

I have a question for you: Would you be by any chance... Jamie Reyes/Blue Beetle/Agustinaldo?

[Guest sirmethos]

You are COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT of Mythbusters. Mythbusters is supposed to be about disproving myths that exist in real life, or disproving myths from movies or TV Shows that relate to real life (ie. showing what would "really happen" if Goldfinger painted women gold, showing what would "really happen" if a car got shot, etc.). It's not about disproving facts from comic books or Star Wars. Mythbusters would be more like "Could Vader's suit exist in real life?", "Could the Stomtroopers exist in real life?", "Could a man in real life do what Batman does?", and so on.

 

And you are completely missing the point of this thread, and by proxy, making yourself look like an idiot.

[Guest LegendX]

You are COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT of Mythbusters. Mythbusters is supposed to be about disproving myths that exist in real life, or disproving myths from movies or TV Shows that relate to real life (ie. showing what would "really happen" if Goldfinger painted women gold, showing what would "really happen" if a car got shot, etc.). It's not about disproving facts from comic books or Star Wars. Mythbusters would be more like "Could Vader's suit exist in real life?", "Could the Stomtroopers exist in real life?", "Could a man in real life do what Batman does?", and so on.

Hello Mr. Pot.

[Guest bigballerju]

You are COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT of Mythbusters. Mythbusters is supposed to be about disproving myths that exist in real life, or disproving myths from movies or TV Shows that relate to real life (ie. showing what would "really happen" if Goldfinger painted women gold, showing what would "really happen" if a car got shot, etc.). It's not about disproving facts from comic books or Star Wars. Mythbusters would be more like "Could Vader's suit exist in real life?", "Could the Stomtroopers exist in real life?", "Could a man in real life do what Batman does?", and so on.

 

Go back and read the first page where it describes what this thread is for.

 

Then come back and think about what you said.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

MYTH: Goku is not at FTL levels

 

If someone gives reason why he isnt Ill try to counter. Anytime Goku is against someone like Supes or on his level, most people say Goku loses cuz of the speed difference, but never really says why he isnt.