2:1 - The Flash (Bart Allen) vs. Sandman (Marvel)

[UMPIRE]

SEASON 2, ROUND 1

The Flash (Bart Allen)

Slot: The Team Anchor

Season Wins: 0

Season Losses: 0

Fantasy Team Page

Read more about The Flash (Bart Allen) at Wikipedia

Official Site: DC comics

 

Sandman (Marvel)

Slot: The Team Anchor

Season Wins: 0

Season Losses: 0

Fantasy Team Page

Read more about Sandman (Marvel) at Wikipedia

Official Site: Marvel Entertainment

 

Battle Terrain

Open Desert

 

[Culwych1]

Hahaha! Terrain: Open Desert.

 

I thought this was an easy win for Flash but given the fight's in the desert, Sandman gets my vote. 

[comic_book_fan]

yeah this will be a very tough fight for wally he may get buried.

[Fox]

Hahaha! Terrain: Open Desert.

 

I thought this was an easy win for Flash but given the fight's in the desert, Sandman gets my vote. 

That is pretty funny.  Advantage Sandman for sure.

[Guest Incredible Hulk]

Lol what a stroke of luck terrain wise for Sandman

 

Sandman takes this pretty easily

[Magnamax]

Good point on the terrain, it gives Sandman a pretty good edge.

[Bergy_Berg]

Yeah, on a city street Bart could have won this, but in a desert it's all Sandman.

[Guest bigballerju]

LOL Sandman got lucky here. Flash has no way in this location to put down Sandman. Sandman wins.

[Guest tomisntblue]

I guess the saying, "It's better to be lucky than good" applies here.

[Guest sithisson]

Location, Location, Location has worked wonders this time for the Sandman.

[xLEGACYx]

Sandman wins ONLY because of terrain.  What luck!

[Guest badpierce]

Good thing it wasn't hydro man.

[Guest Magnetrex]

Sandman has home turf advantage

[Guest Omega11]

I think Flash is being vastly underestimated here.

 

Here are a few of the many ways Flash could win:

 

1. Create enough friction to turn the entire desert into glass(including Sandman).

 

2. Steal Sandman's speed rendering him a living statue.

 

3. Corkscrew deep underground until he reaches the water table, which he can then use for any number of effects.

 

4. Blow away all of the sand in the desert.

 

5. Knockout Sandman before he can turn into sand(I'm not extremely familiar with the character but DC comics database says that he can convert his body into sand, not that it is permanently made of sand but that could be in error).

[Bergy_Berg]

5. Knockout Sandman before he can turn into sand(I'm not extremely familiar with the character but DC comics database says that he can convert his body into sand, not that it is permanently made of sand but that could be in error).

Well, I think a big mistake you made there was going off of DC comics database when we have a marvel character in play.

Secondly, you listed a lot of powers that depend on the version of the Flash. More powerful versions, like a Flash that can beat the hell out of the entire JLU or something, need to be discarded in favor of a version that fits the slot Flash is in here. I believe speed stealing like what you described was mentioned before the matches actually started.

[Guest Omega11]

Well, I think a big mistake you made there was going off of DC comics database when we have a marvel character in play.

Secondly, you listed a lot of powers that depend on the version of the Flash. More powerful versions, like a Flash that can beat the hell out of the entire JLU or something, need to be discarded in favor of a version that fits the slot Flash is in here. I believe speed stealing like what you described was mentioned before the matches actually started.

1. Well I meant to say Marvel comics database, my bad.

 

2. I'm simply assuming it's pre-Flashpoint Wally West with no P.I.S. If there were any power restrictions agreed upon elsewhere I was unaware of them.

[Guest bigballerju]

When has Flash ever just blown the entire sand in a desert away? When has he turned all of it to glass? Sandman's entire body is sand. In  a desert Sandman could be everywhere. Oh and digging deep for water is a huge mistake since you don't know how far down the water is. He could end up giving Sandman a advantage and have Sandman bury him with massive amounts of sand,

[Guest Omega11]

1. When has Flash ever needed to do those things?

 

2. They are all perfectly within his capabilities.

 

3. It doesn't really matter if the water is 3 or 300 feet down, Flash can get to it before Sandman has a chance to do much more than realize he's in a fight.

 

4. How is Sandman going to do anything at all to Flash who is operating at-or-near lightspeed?

[Bergy_Berg]

What, is Bart Allen completely impervious to attack or something? If so, his comics must be very boring.

Sandman could pretty easily affect him, what with Sandman basically becoming the battlefield.

[Guest bigballerju]

Bart Allen doesn't start out running at near light speed for one. Two do you know how much sand is in a desert? Don't just tell me Flash could turn the entire desert into glass or blow it away without proof. If Flash digs down their is nothing to stop Sandman from filling his lungs with sand. Also how much water you think Flash will get deep down there? You have proof he can get enough out for a entire desert?

[Guest force_echo]

I doubt Flash could displace or affect all of the Sand in an entire desert.

[Guest Omega11]

Some of you guys don't seem to fully grasp what Flash is capable of once you take away the P.I.S. factor.

 

Sandman will not be able to touch Bart...like at all. If Flash is serious Sandman will never even be able to see him. His speed and reflexes are far too high.

 

One or two infinite mass punches and suddenly the desert is a crater.

 

Flash could whip up a could of tornadoes to stop Sandman from being able to form anything solid.

 

There are soooo many ways for Flash to win this once you sit down and think about it.

[Guest Pseudonym]

Flash isn't doing any Infinite Mass Punches. He's the Team Anchor, not the oh Shit Button.

[Bergy_Berg]

On 6/13/2013 at 8:14 PM, Pseudonym said:

Flash isn't doing any Infinite Mass Punches. He's the Team Anchor, not the oh Shit Button.

Exactly. Bart in this fight won't be anywhere near light speed and won't be able to use most of his best powers.

If he was in the oh shit slot, then anything goes. Infinite mass punches, speed stealing, and all manner of crap would be acceptable. But here, anchor against anchor, Wally gets beat.

[Guest Omega11]

As I said: I was assuming an unrestricted Wally since he was approved, if there are limits placed on him then things might change.

 

However he doesn't need the infinite mass punch to win; he can get the same result through other means.