comic_book_fan

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These poor monks will have a lot of rebuilding to do assuming they live long enough Apocalypse is a hulk level in strength and with a million other powers he will put hulk down long before he gets strong enough to damage him

Iam not sure if iam signed in or guest but this is cbf subzero got took down by a bucket of water he has been shown in other canon that his power can be turned against him and he is up against quite possibly the best at this

if billy uses telepathy against Apocalypse he will get a violent feedback also and can billy control his molecules on the subatomic level there is no real way for billy to win this every single power he has Apocalypse has a counter for telepathy Apocalypse is immune transmutation Apocalypse molecule manipulation counters that lightning thor's lightning only managed to stagger him i doubt billy's will do anymore than that if it hits him Apocalypse also has force fields and teleportation brute force Apocalypse has taken on the hulk and held his own against 2 thor's at once not to mention try punching something that can change from it's physical state at will billy punches him he can change to a liquid state forget wizdom Apocalypse is way smarter than billy not to mention if this place runs off tec Apocalypse could turn the whole battle field against him they both have the power of gods but one has the brain of a 12 year old while the other could figure out how to use tecnology hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than he should

this is CBUB i remember us having a distinctively different debate style then comicvine i was hoping to use our old method of debate because i feel like it's more accurate it also massively helps me out but if we have to hash things out by feats are everything comicvine method i can do that too i await your response on how you want to do this if i get no response by tomorrow i will make my case using both styles

morg in a decent fight

define prep because Doom has fuctions in his armor at all times built to allow him to take on thor hulk ff he can spam the field with demons channel the strength of cytorak and he has the ovoid mind switch all stuff he can do in seconds and auto shields powerful enough to take shots from thanos this fight could go either way but i lean toward Doom because he is just too damn crafty say adam beats all of Doom's fail safe he has no idea about the ovoid mind switch and all Doom has to do is make eye contact then he has adam's body

i would go with Doom

if this is to permanent death than doomesday wins hulk still has to breath and the that apparatus will be lost and destroyed at some point but hulk has a chance if doomesday loses after first death

Apocalypse has teleportation powerful forcefields to prevent damage and even if he does get damaged he heals at pretty much will and has powerful adaptation powers and he is physically stronger and faster and has TK to guide ultron in

nope Apocalypse is stronger but iam not sure how there going to hurt eachother if Apocalypse can't use tecnopathy to win

but he is better with his powers and packs a enough of a punch to knock thanos on his ass and is still fast enough to keep up with manhunter this is a verry winable fight for either of them

that island is going to sink

he has oliver beat in speed and strength while being a match for him in skill but even live action spidey greatly surpasses slade in speed and strength and his spidersense would do enough in warning him of traps or environmental threats and his un ending web gives him a effective range weapon that can't be taken away from him

that wasn't showing goblin attacking him without warning he was just midair and mid motion and focused on saving marry jane and he was new to his powers this was all from the first movie he had just gotten them he was way better with them in the 2nd and third movies

i am going with fire lord a more versatile powerset and he has knocked out the surfer before so he can easily do enough damage to put adam down not one of the stronger heralds but any herald is a solid threat

if they are using there weapons then i have to admit shocker has the edge but in a fist fight i have a chance

he can see electrical activity in your brain and can predict what your going to do based on that he can also see every possible outcome based on said moves he knows your powers one comic it was shown that he can actually see his whole day in reverse see the outcome he wants and make every choice that leads to it i call bs on this because he gets hit to much and has stated that he has been ambushed in ways that allowed him limited options if this were true then he would never bee in that spot

hulk

iam leaning toward superman his exp will play a big apart

it comes down to how quick he will use his voice zod is physically more powerful but bolt can hang with thor and hulk for a good while so he won't go down quick to the kryptonian but zod is more ruthless and more tactically sound bolt also has telepathy and matter manipulation damn this one is tough

Apocalypse can react to superspeeds catching an axe thrown by thor tagging quicksilver on 2 separate occasions and outright stating superspeed is useless against him he can counter most of flash's attacks and only needs one shot to win this even if flash tags him Apocalypse could take a form that the blunt strikes of flash couldn't hurt it is highly unlikly flash will find a way to put Apocalypse before Apocalypse can land one hit