Guest ricrery Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 The chip was given to his brother, on accident. In RotS, we see the B2 Battledroids see R2-D2 as a "stupid little astro droid", and this is far better emotions than Data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 The chip was given to his brother, on accident. In RotS, we see the B2 Battledroids see R2-D2 as a "stupid little astro droid", and this is far better emotions than Data.True, but where Data could fit into society with his emotions, Droids can't. They have a tendency to run Rampant apparently, and you know the whole "Meat Bag" comments don't go over too well with organics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Droids in SW are also more competent, they'd tear ST droids/drones apart. You make Data sound strong even though he has only thrown humans around, while Worf was losing to Locutus, Wookies are obviously stronger than DS9 Klingons that lose to normal humans in close quarters combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Ok, I would like to make a List of what each faction brings to the Table.  Assuming that I am right about how the IOM would absorb the lesser/friendlier factions, and that the GE/Sith and the IOMadv keep each other at arms length to try and maintain a balance of power.   Imperium of ManSTC'sSpace MarinesHigh Powered Plasma WeaponsMelta WeaponsAdamanium ArmourCeramite Armourelectrically-motivated fibre bundles, as seen in all Power ArmourBlack Carapace Bio-TechLance WeaponryPsykersWarp driveTitansVoid ShieldsWarp TeleportationThe Emperor  RepublicDuplicatorsHyperdriveDroidsHypermatterTurbolasersRepublic Ship YardsJediMace WinduLight SabersPlanetary ShieldsHigh Powered Deflector ShieldsSpaarti CloningKamino Cloning  UNSC/InsurrectionistsNOVA BombMAC CannonAdvanced AISlipspace DrivePower ArmourBubble ShieldsCryonicsBio-FoamAdvanced Stealth ShieldsEx-Admiral Preston ColeCaptian Jacob KeyesCatherine HalseyInfantry Portable Anti-Material Rail GunsInfantry Portable 30MT NukeVISRFlash Cloning  FederationPhasersCloaking Tech, they would no longer be bound by the Treaty of Algeron and free to use CloaksWarp DriveAdvanced Medical Techniques and EquipmentAugmentsAdvanced AndroidsTransportersReplicatorsHolodecksSensors that can apparently see 0.793 lightyears all around in real time  Weyland-Yutani CorpI have no idea...   Terran FederationHigh Powered / High Mobility Power Armour  Galactic EmpirePretty much everything the Republic has.Quantum-Crystalline ArmourResonance TorpedoesSuper LasersGravity Well ProjectorsWorld DevastatorsDarth VaderEmperor PalpatineThe Emperor's Hand... I'm sure Ruinus can help with this list, I know I've left stuff out, but this is alot already... Rebel AllianceLuke SkywalkerHan SoloWedge Antilles  Please feel free to comment on any additional Resources that I've forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hmm, I just thought of something...   Unless the Human side is getting over powerful  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Done. Anyone who would like to see an alien faction added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 If anyone was interested, I'd like to add Alan Dean Foster's Humans from his short story "With Friends like these..." Technically, they're the Terran equivalent of Necrons. They can levitate/possibly fly, have advanced Psionic powers, turned Earth into a FTL spaceship, and can atomize a kilometer long warship with a gun the size of a small branch....A gun wielded by a small kid under 10. Is that giving the Humans too big of an advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 If anyone was interested, I'd like to add Alan Dean Foster's Humans from his short story "With Friends like these..." Technically, they're the Terran equivalent of Necrons. They can levitate/possibly fly, have advanced Psionic powers, turned Earth into a FTL spaceship, can atomize a kilometer long warship with a gun the size of a small branch....A gun wielded by a small kid under 10. Is that giving the Humans too big of an advantage?Perhaps, unless you want to add the Xeelee and Photino birds to the aliens...  Maybe the Orks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Perhaps, unless you want to add the Xeelee and Photino birds to the aliens...  Maybe the Orks? Aren't the Xeelee and Photinos bordering on Phhysical Gods? As for the Orks...Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Aren't the Xeelee and Photinos bordering on Phhysical Gods?Very, very close. But they really shouldn't be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Very, very close. But they really shouldn't be added. Perhaps leaving them out wouldn't be such a bad idea? EDIT: Nevermind. Didn't see the last part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Yes. Considering the Xenos are in cold water right now. Give them the Culture and deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Yes. Considering the Xenos are in cold water right now. Give them the Culture and deal.The Culture generally consider themselves "Human" Â Their closest equivalent would be the Federation... if it was allowed to evolve naturally for a couple millenia with Logic and Technology, and not zany script writers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 It states the Culture novels take place back to 1300 A.D. so maybe they aren't human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 "Techniques in genetics have advanced in the Culture to the point where bodies can be freed from built-in limitations. Citizens of the Culture refer to a 'normal' human as 'human-basic' and the vast majority opt for significant enhancements" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Maybe we should add the Culture as Xemon as the ultimate power that each group has to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Maybe we should add the Culture as Xemon as the ultimate power that each group has to beat.Xemon, who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Culture = Xeno + Human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boston_celtics Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Xemon, who? Why can't I help but imagine a Pokemon in the shape of Master Chief + Predator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnee Corp Lawyer Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Orks? orks? now its a fight. How many orks are we adding out of curiosity. Unfortunatley their tech doesn't combine well with other races, because technically most of it shouldn't work. The way the majority of ork tek works is a mek throws a bunch of junk together, and if enough of the orks believe it should work, it does. to quote the codex "Many a tech marine has opened up a shoota only to find it is a metal box with bits of metal in it". the problem with this is while all of the other races are combining tech (or themselves in case of the flood/tyranids/aliens) the orks would have no way o collaborate with their team. also, its very possible the orks would simply ignore the beyonder's warning and fight with everyone anyways. The concept of being punished for fighting is just not one they can wrap their heads around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Orks? orks? now its a fight. How many orks are we adding out of curiosity. Unfortunatley their tech doesn't combine well with other races, because technically most of it shouldn't work. The way the majority of ork tek works is a mek throws a bunch of junk together, and if enough of the orks believe it should work, it does. to quote the codex "Many a tech marine has opened up a shoota only to find it is a metal box with bits of metal in it". the problem with this is while all of the other races are combining tech (or themselves in case of the flood/tyranids/aliens) the orks would have no way o collaborate with their team. also, its very possible the orks would simply ignore the beyonder's warning and fight with everyone anyways. The concept of being punished for fighting is just not one they can wrap their heads around Having realized how powerful Orks could be if their entire race went to war...How many Orks would you have placed here, in order to make it even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 His information gathering capacity also seems to be faster than a Droids, as the esteemed R2-D2 took several seconds to bring up the Death Star schematic and find the tractor beam controls, and a further couple of seconds to find Leia. I believe that I have seen Data read several small font pages of text per second, with full comprehension of all the material in them. Reading pages and accessing the blueprints for a 160 km wide ship and accessings some basic functions within the ship are entirely different things. Droids in Star Wars are limited, for the most part, in that people in that Universe don't build droids like Data, they don't build droids to "do everything all the time and be really good at everything" they build tools, droids that can do one thing and only one thing. And even then, they actively go about limiting their droid by wiping their memories which give them emotions/sapience/etc, by placing built in limiters on them, by treating them as tools rather than people. Edit: Actually here "Data was built with an ultimate storage capacity of eight hundred quadrillion bits (one hundred petabytes, approximately fifty times the identifiable storage capacity of the Human brain) and a total linear computational speed rated at sixty trillion operations per second." MedStar II page 183: "There was a slight but unmistakeable hint of snobbery in I-Five's voce as he answered. "I have a SyntheTech AA-One nanoprocessor, operating at seven petahertz, with a five-exabyte capacity. I wrote the program just after I mentioned it to you. It took me six-point-one nanoseconds to encode the basic algorithm and calculate its functional parameters." I-5YQ is a normal droid, with his "creative dampers" turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hmm, this from the same series that said this about Clone Trooper armour... Armour that was supposed to have more protection in Combat than Stormtrooper armour... "I don't know why they bother putting armor on em." "Got that right", Zan said, "Stuff won't stop anything stronger than a kids pellet gun"  When you have a million different monkeys authors writing for one universe, strange Facts get added. It's very easily to just pick and chooses what we like out of said "Strange" books (kinda like dealing with a bruised fruit) but how far does it go? C3PO supposedly has the same brain, but he didn't seem to smart. In fact IIRC it took him a couple seconds (Not Nano Seconds) to go from "I see a Stormtrooper" to "I have to warn the others" just before being blasted on Cloud City.  So does this mean that C3PO has disproved that highly exaggerated statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hmm, this from the same series that said this about Clone Trooper armour... Armour that was supposed to have more protection in Combat than Stormtrooper armour... "I don't know why they bother putting armor on em." "Got that right", Zan said, "Stuff won't stop anything stronger than a kids pellet gun" Except that that is disproven wrong by several other sources which state that stormtrooper armor can withstand bullets that are not AP, and can deflect glancing blows. One man saying "Oh this armor is crap" doesn't change that. C3PO supposedly has the same brain, but he didn't seem to smart. In fact IIRC it took him a couple seconds (Not Nano Seconds) to go from "I see a Stormtrooper" to "I have to warn the others" just before being blasted on Cloud City. Where does it say they have the same brain?Why would a droid assembled by a kid on a backwater planet be up to the same specs as a droid built by a galactic company? EDIT: In fact, C-3P0 has a AA-1 VerboBrain, while the I-5s have the SyntheTech AA-One nanoprocessor. The AA-1 thing seems to be the same thing, but they may not. So does this mean that C3PO has disproved that highly exaggerated statement? It's too exact to be exaggerated. It's a droid flat out stating his computer specs. BTW: Their amazing storage and processing power doesn't require they act and move at super speeds, the same could be same for Data. He still talks, moves and acts at the same speeds of humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Also:Star Wars Novel ReferencesX-Wing: Wedge's Gamble page 237:"Each night clean new memory cores are placed in the computers and trillions of exabytes of transactions are transferred to the new cores."Â Also: navi computers. Capable of plotting courses anywhere in the galaxy, while having to factor in real time navigation hazards. Smaller ones can be fitted into droids with 15 different desitnations (which I assume are present by the user) and some are handheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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