Match 13324 Mirai Trunks vs. Lobo

[C.T.]

In other terms, each differing universe is canon to itself and no other universe. 616 is canon to itself, 1610 is canon to itself, 2149 is canon to itself. Taken together they are all canon to the Marvel Multiverse, which is canon. 616 is mainstream but that doesn't mean all the others aren't canon in their own right. In addition to what AvP said.

[The Void]

What part of IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE 616 UNIVERSE TO BE CANON don't you understand?

 

I guess the Ultimate Universe was all a dream. OH WAIT IT IS NOT.

 

WHAT PART OF IT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT 616 IS A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE?

[Guest MarvelFan15]

In other terms, each differing universe is canon to itself and no other universe. 616 is canon to itself, 1610 is canon to itself, 2149 is canon to itself. Taken together they are all canon to the Marvel Multiverse, which is canon. 616 is mainstream but that doesn't mean all the others aren't canon in their own right. In addition to what AvP said.

 

That's more or less what everyone has been saying all along, in their own words.

 

Why did it come this far, exactly?

[The Void]

Lol, those links you posted prove nothing. All they say is that the DC Universe is part of a different multiverse to Marvel's, they say absolutely nothing about whether it's canon or not. You must have a very strange way of interpreting things if you think either of those links qualify as points in your favor..

No you read again, you clearly did not understand what the link said. It had the JLA/Avengers crossover under the DC Universe? Now why would they do that? If the JLA/Avengers is suppose to be canon to the 616 universe.... -__-

 

There ARE no links that state whether it's canon or not, but common sense should tell you that it is. And seriously? That is a completely different scenario to what I'm suggesting. It's common knowledge that the movies are adaptations taking place in different universes, while there's no evidence whatsoever that the JLA/Avengers crossover took place in some alternate Earth. It seems clear that Marvel and DC had the mainstream versions of both their universes in mind when they made the crossover.

 

And I already posted a link where it places the JLA/Avengers in a different universe. So yeah there's the evidence. I don't know where you guys got the idea of Marvel stating the JLA/Avengers was canon to the 616 universe. Yes Marvel has copy rights to it and so does DC, but Marvel NEVER added it to their story line unlike DC.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

This just comes back down to your odd way of interpreting things. It clearly states that DC is a different multiverse to Marvel's, not that JLA/Avengers takes place there.

[The Void]

That's more or less what everyone has been saying all along, in their own words.

 

Why did it come this far, exactly?

 

EXACTLY.... *rollseyes*.

[The Void]

This just comes back down to your odd way of interpreting things. It clearly states that DC is a different multiverse to Marvel's, not that JLA/Avengers takes place there.

 

Read where is says "First Appearance." Again only DC acknowledges.

[C.T.]

Wrong. Marvel does too.

[Guest force_echo]

The Marvel Handbook only records 616 mainstream incidents until it specifically states otherwise, and the official Marvel Handbook overrides a Wikipedia article canonically. Therefore, JLA/Avengers is canon to both universes.

 

It doesn't have to have a lasting influence to be canon, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. There was an arc a while back called invasion of the Atlanteans where Namor invaded the surface world and caused a lot of damage in stuff. In the mainstream comic line outside of Namor's own title, it was never mentioned at all. This kind of thing happens literally all of the time, it doesn't mean that the Invasion of the Atlanteans arc was noncanon.

[The Void]

^^^^What are you talking about? There are various of Marvel vs DC crossovers mentioned in the handbooks.

 

Anyways I'm done.

[Guest bigballerju]

You do know in the most updated version of Marvel handbooks JLA vs Avengers is said to be canon right? So yea it is. It's pointless to debate whether it's canon when both companies have it as canon. Trinity in DC was a result of JLA vs Avengers and even the Justice League comics afterwards mentioned it. You add in the fact it has a entry in the Marvel Handbook. It's canon period. The one crossover that is confirmed to be canon and known by most people is the one you keeping trying to prove it's not for no reason.

[Guest sirmethos]

@Stranglehold: Since you seem to think that wikipedia and marvel.wikia, are more true than the Marvel Handbooks(even when neither of the wiki sites give a source for their information). Does that mean, that if I go and edit those two pages(as anyone can do), to say that Marvel vs. DC(the one with Access, and the two Brothers) is canon. You'll officially believe that Spectre is equal to The Living Tribunal?

Tthat Wonder Woman can lift Mjolnir?

That Batman can beat Captain America?

 

Marvel officially recognized it as canon, by including it in their Official Handbook which, unless specifically mentioned(as Force already pointed out), only deals with events in the 616 universe.