Superman vs Thor

[Guest jonahhex]

Thor struggles with Hulk! He can't beat Superman.

[Guest batosaims]

Superman would defeat Thor

 

Ivan, MarvelMan, and Stranglehold are all morons and Marvel fantards

[Stranglehold-prime]

Superman would defeat Thor

 

Ivan, MarvelMan, and Stranglehold are all morons and Marvel fantards

 

 

So we meet again Satid.

[Guest xman4life]

Thor can travel at supersonic speeds in Earth's atmosphere and travel faster then the spped of light in space.

 

STRENGTH

From Thor's very first appearance, his strength has been portrayed as being top-tier. Here, he twists around iron bars effortlessly with his bare hands, from Journey Into Mystery #83:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ngth01JIM84.jpg

 

Here he carves a hammer out of uru with his fingers, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ngth05JIM92.jpg

 

Onto pure pushing and lifting feats. Early on, Thor pushes over the Leaning Tower of Pisa with his finger, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rStrength07.jpg

 

Onto pure pushing and lifting feats. Early on, Thor pushes over the Leaning Tower of Pisa with his finger, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rStrength07.jpg

 

Thor actually lifts the Midgard Serpent away from the Earth. Note that the catastrophic effects of such a feat are actually physically felt on Earth, from Thor #327:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rength31327.jpg

 

Thor resists a force "as though half a planet" were bearing down on him, from Thor #140:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rength14140.jpg

 

And with repeated blows? Thor and Red Norvell literally wreck Asgard with their fist-fight and almost deafen Heimdall, from Thor #476:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rength41476.jpg

 

DURABILITY

And Thor has literally stood in the center of the Sun while confronting Atum in Thor Annual #14:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...eatAnnual14.jpg

 

Thor has resisted extreme ranges of heat throughout his career. Thor doesn't even register a reaction when immersed in lava, from Avengers #5:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Avengers005.jpg

 

Another high-end feat, Thor is caught in a web of energy of an amped Thanosi who destroys a planet of 41 billion beings. Firelord knows he cannot resist such energies and frees Thor by, ironically, blasting Thor with his Power Cosmic, from Thor vol. 2 #25:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...9v225Energy.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ity40Energy.jpg

 

During the Kang Dynasty, Kang destroys Washington D.C. with a bomb, which Thor survives, from Avengers vol. 2 #49:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...1v249Energy.jpg

 

And while empowered, Odinforce Thor has resisted the Destroyer's beam of total disintegration in Thor vol. 3 #5:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...4v305Energy.jpg

 

And now SUPERSPEED

Here, Thor is about to have his face smashed by a cursed Mjolnir which is zooming back to him, but he moves swiftly enough on reaction to dodge it in Thor vol. 2 #27:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...uperspeed25.jpg

 

Here, we see Thor flying outside a window and when Jane Foster gets his attention, Thor manages to intercept Cobra's poison dart within a split-second. The dart is fired before he even is inside the room, just to give you the proper frame of reference to understand the speed and reflexes necessary in Journey Into Mystery #98

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...peed03JIM98.jpg

 

In terms of flight speed, he's flown at least three times the speed of light, from Thor #185:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rSpeed01185.jpg

 

He time travels again in Journey Into Mystery #102:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ravelJIM102.jpg

 

Btw crossovers are not canons(Wonder women losing to Storm and Lobo losing to Wolverine is invalid.

 

Also thors hammer can absorb supermans attacks like it did Silver surfer,etc.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...orptionSS04.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rptionAveng.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...7b-Sunblast.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...yAbsorption.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...orptionv222.jpg

 

If this were silver age superman then it would be a different story.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499...-a_sa_super.jpg

 

 

But the problem is Silver age(classic Superman) is really really extremely weak against magic.

 

Amen! Now what else can be said? He spelled it out for you and everything! If you saw during seige after he killed sentry he flew to the sun in like 2 mins to throw sentrys body in the sun!!!!!! Thor has super speed like come on and on top of that he can teleport and absorb power through the hammer! These traits aren't ever factored in! And remember he also controls the WOLRDS weather and believe it or not lightning hurts super man especailly one the size of a city would hurt him. Thor is more than strength! He has super speed too, teleportation, able to absorb energry, control weather and is a god(pure magic) come on do your reasearch on him!

[Guest xman4life]

Thor can travel at supersonic speeds in Earth's atmosphere and travel faster then the spped of light in space.

 

STRENGTH

From Thor's very first appearance, his strength has been portrayed as being top-tier. Here, he twists around iron bars effortlessly with his bare hands, from Journey Into Mystery #83:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ngth01JIM84.jpg

 

Here he carves a hammer out of uru with his fingers, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ngth05JIM92.jpg

 

Onto pure pushing and lifting feats. Early on, Thor pushes over the Leaning Tower of Pisa with his finger, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rStrength07.jpg

 

Onto pure pushing and lifting feats. Early on, Thor pushes over the Leaning Tower of Pisa with his finger, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rStrength07.jpg

 

Thor actually lifts the Midgard Serpent away from the Earth. Note that the catastrophic effects of such a feat are actually physically felt on Earth, from Thor #327:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rength31327.jpg

 

Thor resists a force "as though half a planet" were bearing down on him, from Thor #140:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rength14140.jpg

 

And with repeated blows? Thor and Red Norvell literally wreck Asgard with their fist-fight and almost deafen Heimdall, from Thor #476:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rength41476.jpg

 

DURABILITY

And Thor has literally stood in the center of the Sun while confronting Atum in Thor Annual #14:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...eatAnnual14.jpg

 

Thor has resisted extreme ranges of heat throughout his career. Thor doesn't even register a reaction when immersed in lava, from Avengers #5:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Avengers005.jpg

 

Another high-end feat, Thor is caught in a web of energy of an amped Thanosi who destroys a planet of 41 billion beings. Firelord knows he cannot resist such energies and frees Thor by, ironically, blasting Thor with his Power Cosmic, from Thor vol. 2 #25:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...9v225Energy.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ity40Energy.jpg

 

During the Kang Dynasty, Kang destroys Washington D.C. with a bomb, which Thor survives, from Avengers vol. 2 #49:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...1v249Energy.jpg

 

And while empowered, Odinforce Thor has resisted the Destroyer's beam of total disintegration in Thor vol. 3 #5:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...4v305Energy.jpg

 

And now SUPERSPEED

Here, Thor is about to have his face smashed by a cursed Mjolnir which is zooming back to him, but he moves swiftly enough on reaction to dodge it in Thor vol. 2 #27:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...uperspeed25.jpg

 

Here, we see Thor flying outside a window and when Jane Foster gets his attention, Thor manages to intercept Cobra's poison dart within a split-second. The dart is fired before he even is inside the room, just to give you the proper frame of reference to understand the speed and reflexes necessary in Journey Into Mystery #98

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...peed03JIM98.jpg

 

In terms of flight speed, he's flown at least three times the speed of light, from Thor #185:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rSpeed01185.jpg

 

He time travels again in Journey Into Mystery #102:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ravelJIM102.jpg

 

Btw crossovers are not canons(Wonder women losing to Storm and Lobo losing to Wolverine is invalid.

 

Also thors hammer can absorb supermans attacks like it did Silver surfer,etc.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...orptionSS04.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rptionAveng.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...7b-Sunblast.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...yAbsorption.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...orptionv222.jpg

 

If this were silver age superman then it would be a different story.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499...-a_sa_super.jpg

 

 

But the problem is Silver age(classic Superman) is really really extremely weak against magic.

 

Amen! Now what else can be said? He spelled it out for you and everything! If you saw during seige after he killed sentry he flew to the sun in like 2 mins to throw sentrys body in the sun(after going toe to toe with him and not getting killed like ares and also sn(you think superman would be worthy enough to lift THORS hammer to defeat THOR? Hell no maybe to save the world but not to hurt the hammers owner think people)!!!!!! Thor has super speed like come on and on top of that he can teleport and absorb power through the hammer! These traits aren't ever factored in! And remember he also controls the WOLRDS weather and believe it or not lightning hurts super man especailly one the size of a city would hurt him. Thor is more than strength! He has super speed too, teleportation, able to absorb energry, control weather and is a god(pure magic) come on do your reasearch on him!

[Guest xman4life]

Ok allow me to finish this! Odin force thor kills super man easily! He has the power of a FATHER god. Meaning its not much he can do when odin force thor WILLS away people! But we are talking about regular thor so

thor can time travel. And superman is vunerable to magic and captain marvel almost killed superman with his lightning right. That's a fact its undeniable. And isn't thor the god of weather right? That's a fact. So if kingdom come superman is the strongest superman right? That's a fact. Then wouldn't thor be able to kill regular superman the same way? Yes is the answer and that's what you call end of discussion unless some dc freak wants to bend rules.

So for all the slow people.

Captain marvel has beaten kingdom come superman(the strongest one) through fightning and super natural lightning! Fact

Captain marvel is made up of magic which super man is vulnerable! Fact

Thor is god or lightning right? Fact

Thos kills super man the samw way captain marvel did! Case close

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

Ok allow me to finish this! Odin force thor kills super man easily! He has the power of a FATHER god. Meaning its not much he can do when odin force thor WILLS away people! But we are talking about regular thor so

thor can time travel. And superman is vunerable to magic and captain marvel almost killed superman with his lightning right. That's a fact its undeniable. And isn't thor the god of weather right? That's a fact. So if kingdom come superman is the strongest superman right? That's a fact. Then wouldn't thor be able to kill regular superman the same way? Yes is the answer and that's what you call end of discussion unless some dc freak wants to bend rules.

So for all the slow people.

Captain marvel has beaten kingdom come superman(the strongest one) through fightning and super natural lightning! Fact

Captain marvel is made up of magic which super man is vulnerable! Fact

Thor is god or lightning right? Fact

Thos kills super man the samw way captain marvel did! Case close

Captain Marvel DID NOT KILL KC SUPERMAN. That instance Superman held back to keep from hurting Marvel. He even managed to stop Marvel from being being able to use his magic lightning. (supes took 4 or 5 bolts and it only slightly hurt supes. Then he survived a bomb specifically designed to kill superhumans.)

[Guest xman4life]

Captain Marvel DID NOT KILL KC SUPERMAN. That instance Superman held back to keep from hurting Marvel. He even managed to stop Marvel from being being able to use his magic lightning. (supes took 4 or 5 bolts and it only slightly hurt supes. Then he survived a bomb specifically designed to kill superhumans.)

Barely hurt him? He was in agony bleeding saying enough! And stop! Geez how far will u go to protect super man

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

pretty hard to call too close to call honestly i think it comes down to luck to quote bill parcells "some days id rather have luck then skill" o think these characters are so evnly matched it comes down to somethin happening in the fight tht tips the scales

strength- supes is stronger

speed- pretty even

fighting skills- also even

durability- also even

superman has the advantage in strength but i thnk thors magic counters it evenly

as i said luck is key here

[DSkillz]

Why on earth did you post in this old thread, xmen4life? I've seen that no one has posted in it for months before you decided to bring it back up.

 

Not to add to the debate, but IMO, this is the best write-up of a Supes vs. Thor fight I've seen on the 'Net, and I've read more than a few. It does a great job of showing what both men are fully capable of, and the fight could've gone either way.

 

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3724952/1/bTho...s_b_bSuperman_b

 

Now, for God's sake, can we let this debate rest? It's been done to death!

[Guest sirmethos]

Ok allow me to finish this! Odin force thor kills super man easily! He has the power of a FATHER god. Meaning its not much he can do when odin force thor WILLS away people! But we are talking about regular thor so

thor can time travel. And superman is vunerable to magic and captain marvel almost killed superman with his lightning right. That's a fact its undeniable. And isn't thor the god of weather right? That's a fact. So if kingdom come superman is the strongest superman right? That's a fact. Then wouldn't thor be able to kill regular superman the same way? Yes is the answer and that's what you call end of discussion unless some dc freak wants to bend rules.

So for all the slow people.

Captain marvel has beaten kingdom come superman(the strongest one) through fightning and super natural lightning! Fact

Captain marvel is made up of magic which super man is vulnerable! Fact

Thor is god or lightning right? Fact

Thos kills super man the samw way captain marvel did! Case close

 

 

Kingdom Come Superman isn't the strongest version of Superman... Clark Kent of Superman One Million is the strongest, KC-Superman is like a normal human in comparison to him.

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

Barely hurt him? He was in agony bleeding saying enough! And stop! Geez how far will u go to protect super man

Other than a little blood the lightning and bomb didnt do much more than piss Superman off.

[Guest Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes)]

Thor will always win against Superman, because Thor is a magical being, and Superman is weak against magic.

[Guest sirmethos]

Thor will always win against Superman, because Thor is a magical being, and Superman is weak against magic.

 

ugh...

 

get facts straight = avoid looking like idiot

 

 

 

Magic is NOT an insta-win against Superman.

 

Superman has on several occasions defeated people with magic.

 

 

Superman is not 'weak' against Magic. he does not lose his powers in the presence of magic, he does not become dumber in the presence of magic.

 

the only 'weakness' he has towards magic, is that it affects him just like it affects everyone else.

 

 

 

by your logic, everyone would then lose when fighting against someone with magic.

 

 

 

Thor is weak against magic, so Loki always beats him?

 

no. same goes for Superman.

[Guest Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes)]

When "everyone else" fights against Thor, Thor wins.

 

Ergo, by your own logic, Thor should win.

[Guest sirmethos]

When "everyone else" fights against Thor, Thor wins.

 

Ergo, by your own logic, Thor should win.

 

no, there are several people that would kick Thors arse, even certain versions of Superman.

 

 

in this particular case: OdinForce Thor vs. Kingdom Come Superman, then yes, Thor wins.

 

 

but if you change Kingdom Come Superman, to Superman One Million(Clark Kent) then Thor gets his arse kicked so hard that his grandchildren will be sore.

 

 

 

my bottom line: Magic does Not mean that Superman automatically loses.

[Guest Red Blue Blur]

For the record Superman has fought Black Adam on occasion and won. Black Adam is a magical being that has had a tremendous showing of fighting off all the Earth based DC heroes at once. Superman beat him.

[Guest sherminatortwo]

I think Superman has an advantage in strength and speed nut there's still supe's vulnerability to magic. What happens if he gets hit by one of Thor's mystically derived lightening bolts?

[C.T.]

THE F*CK , SHERMINATOR?

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Someone suspend this guy.

[DamagingRob]

Heh. Well, if he keeps ignoring a certain Mod's warnings about this, he may just find himself suspended. Or worse.

[DSkillz]

Hmm... looks like me and sherminator need to have a little talk.

 

Also, I just love how you guys try to guess what the mods might do about these things.

 

EDIT: Check your inbox, sherminator.

[DamagingRob]

Also, I just love how you guys try to guess what the mods might do about these things.

Bleh. I was guessing what you might do. You're the mod that's told him not to, in multiple threads.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Also, I just love how you guys try to guess what the mods might do about these things.

 

Yeah, I remember when you used to do that.