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The Perfect Villains: The Semi Finals (Kevin D Wolf93 vs Zreth)

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Skirmisher I am One with the Ferret.

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Okay so since Junction'ing with something will end horribly so lets go back to time stop or reality warping.

According to this it wouldn't be that good for her.

 

As she would then be face to face with him, in any sense of the fight. It says nothing about having Dr.Zoom like Time Manipulation. And As for Reality Altering, well it appears that she is restricted to basic spell magics, in addition to her ability to form creatures from her enemies subconsciousness.

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According to this it wouldn't be that good for her.

 

As she would then be face to face with him, in any sense of the fight. It says nothing about having Dr.Zoom like Time Manipulation. And As for Reality Altering, well it appears that she is restricted to basic spell magics, in addition to her ability to form creatures from her enemies subconsciousness.

Well actually her Time Manipulation should be far better then Prof.Zoom seeing she dosen't have to think to do it more like a simple part of her will she is like one with time. For reality alteration how about her matter manipulation her spells are just like the easy way out to do things.

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Skirmisher I am One with the Ferret.

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Let's analyze her powers...

 

 

"Ultimecia is an immensely powerful and highly developed Sorceress with her personal power focusing on time and space manipulation. This power is shown in the final battle, where she will often cast spells that involve bending space, such as Bio, Quake, and Meteor or absorb fallen party members into time in the battle against her. Furthermore, she has a devastating magical attack that is similar to Heartless Angel called Hell's Judgement. With Hell's Judgement, Ultimecia can reduce the entire party's health to one point, and she employs it very often in the final battle."

 

So she can use Bio, Quake, and Meteor, or pull fighters into time to specifically fight her face to face... Then there's more magic.

 

 

"Ultimecia also has the ability to manifest and give life to subconscious thoughts and inanimate objects. This includes giving life to Guardian Forces and powerful monsters that did not exist before she created them. For example, Ultimecia manifested and extracted Griever from Squall's subconscious mind. She found Griever to be Squall's conception of the most powerful force that could exist and brought him to life for battle against Squall himself."

 

Then there's the option that we've all ruled out...

 

 

"Moreover, there is her ability to cast Time Compression, which she used to begin absorbing all existence. She additionally has the ability to invade, possess and control an individual's mind; allowing her to steal thoughts, knowledge and magic. She is also able to use this ability on herself. For example, after she transforms into her ultimate form, Ultimecia reaches into her own mind, and manifests what in her mind is the ultimate Black Magic spell, Apocalypse. Her ability to manipulate objects and matter has also led to some interesting Junction forms."

 

First there is her Time Compression, this would not help as she would require... time... to pull it off. Second is her mental powers, which although great in a place where it is not that common, does not give her any edge over a person that Excells at it in a universe that has such people in abundance.

 

 

"Ultimecia has also demonstrated a keen strategic and diplomatic mind, such as being able to convince the President of Galbadia to employ her as the nation's diplomat as well as enticing Seifer Almasy, normally a hostile youth, to devote himself to her. In Dissidia Final Fantasy she also casually manipulates Kuja into performing for her ends. She is then seen trying to convince Sephiroth to join her and Emperor Mateus in their quest of taking control of the world from Chaos and Cosmos. Her intellect is also demonstrated by her sheer ability to conceive time paradoxes and work within them to attain her goals of a time and world compressed into what she conceives to be a perfect world."

 

So, this is a fight, but aside from that Eldrad has himself negotiated with Humanity... Humanity in 40K is a Very, very Xenophobic species... Yet he was able to speak with some of it's leaders from time to time, and had it not been for the corruption of Chaos, would have succeeded with his negotiations.

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That didn't really display all she can do Ultimecia has shown capable of stopping time compression is diffrent it is when all time is compressed meaning there is no past or present or future just one single moment also when she sucks someone in time it means the are gone for good. Her reality manipulation doesn't just single out as one thing she has been seen to bend space and create objects into nothing. Also in there it also stated she can manipulate matter and yes she can very well. She has also shown the abillity recently to change her shape. Anyways what did you mean she would require time to pull it off she has all the time she needs she is practicaly time.

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Skirmisher, You're going to have to play a game with Ultimecia to see what she can do when and if you do you'll see that no matter how powerful of a Psychic you are it's not worth much against her.

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Skirmisher I am One with the Ferret.

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Ha, and there you have it folks.

 

She did break her space time fabric manipulating foot off into Sephiroth's a$$.

 

 

you decide...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8hjtEdv_L4

The first one doesn't speak too highly of her mental abilities compared to Eldrads. There she didn't use any sort of powerful time abilities, and was only able to do anything remotely similar to what is claimed for a finisher.

 

The Second one had nearly half the video as them walking and when it actually got to the fight, I didn't see anything that was too special compared to Eldrad. Some Magics, and then she summoned what would be a Greater Daemon in 40K for them to fight... Though I am starting to look at the other parts.

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Part two has more fighting of Griever, then Ultimicia junctions, which would probably put her on the power of a Daemon Prince.

 

Eldrad would have a tough fight with a DP but he would probably pull through it. The thing here is though that Ultimicia doesn't have Squal to pull Griever from... All she has to pull are things that would dominate her and/or destroy her.

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When Skirmisher says Ultimecia is on par with a Daemon Prince, he means she is probably on par with these big huge red guys...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgmZ0VjCuA...feature=related

 

Which is very very good. The Daemon Prince is the one without the wings. The winged one is the Greater Daemon, Skirmisher was referring to that is similiar to the Griever. Again, powerful feats for Ultimecia.

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I know she's tough, but the fight wouldn't be a physical one. Although Eldrad being an Eldar would naturally have an edge with both Speed and Agility.

 

The fight would all be in the mind, and that is where Ultimicia would fall. Before she would even get to the point of summoning a GF, or casting any sorts of her strange RPG magics.

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When Skirmisher says Ultimecia is on par with a Daemon Prince, he means she is probably on par with these big huge red guys...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgmZ0VjCuA...feature=related

 

Which is very very good. The Daemon Prince is the one without the wings. The winged one is the Greater Daemon, Skirmisher was referring to that is similiar to the Griever. Again, powerful feats for Ultimecia.

But still, Eldrad is a Very Powerful being, with Very Powerful Psychic attacks. He may very well be on par with such creatures in terms of power.

 

 

Also, that is a sweet video, lol those guards didn't stand a chance.

 

 

Edit: Ok here, this is what I'm talking about. Eldrad, is a Very Capable and Very Powerful Farseer, who has lived for 10,000 years honing his skills and power. In addition to his natural Talent, Power, and Skill he also has the Staff of Ulthamar, a potent Force Weapon of his own creation that houses the Seer Council of Ulthwé, they are themselves powerful Farseers... As well it links him to the Vast reserves of Phychic energy of the Ulthwé Cratfworld... He is truly the single most powerful psychic being to walk the universe since the fall of the Emperor of Mankind.

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Skirmisher I am One with the Ferret.

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I still haven't been told what Eldrad can do against a time stop. I'll find a video of her stopping time later.

Advanced knowledge of his enemy, with advanced power and skill in being able to put her down before she can do anything...

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Advanced knowledge of his enemy, with advanced power and skill in being able to put her down before she can do anything...

So this is a battle of who does what first.

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Skirmisher I am One with the Ferret.

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So this is a battle of who does what first.

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I think that's what a whole lot of fights boil down to. Who is quicker on the Draw.

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When your opponent can do this..."Farseers are unparalleled masters of divination, interpreting one future from a myriad of possible ones. It is they who direct their people, protecting them from disasters that have not yet occurred."

 

Yes.

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When your opponent can do this..."Farseers are unparalleled masters of divination, interpreting one future from a myriad of possible ones. It is they who direct their people, protecting them from disasters that have not yet occurred."

 

Yes.

Divination would seem pretty simple for someone who controls time and pretty much a vessel of time. She who controls time stops time first.

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