treacherous Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 Zreth, you are making Ultimecia out to be so very powerful (and she is for the most part), but getting down to it...she was beaten by Squall. Come on...Squall? Also, before I changed up the line up, there were only 3 votes above. Again if any of those three people would like to change their votes, just let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Also if a Warp Beast and Innocence is considered the same then Earl should be able to destroy Ulthuran's warp beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Zreth, you are making Ultimecia out to be so very powerful (and she is for the most part), but getting down to it...she was beaten by Squall. Come on...Squall? Also, before I changed up the line up, there were only 3 votes above. Again if any of those three people would like to change their votes, just let me know.Well yes I know she got beat by Squall but destiny had made it so that she must die to Squall's hand I know you would think destiny would choose someone stronger but no they don't. And time stopping and reality altering is what Ultimecia does and I still don't have an explanation on how he can stop her from time stopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I would also like to state that Ultimecia can also Dispel skills and magic and I think that would include Mind War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 She is very powerful. What she can do... Ultimecia is an immensely powerful and highly developed Sorceress with her personal power focusing on time and space manipulation. This power is shown in the final battle, where she will often cast spells that involve bending space, such as Bio, Quake, and Meteor or absorb fallen party members into time in the battle against her. Furthermore, she has a devastating magical attack that is similar to Heartless Angel called Hell's Judgement. With Hell's Judgement, Ultimecia can reduce the entire party's health to one point, and she employs it very often in the final battle. Ultimecia also has the ability to manifest and give life to subconscious thoughts and inanimate objects. This includes giving life to Guardian Forces and powerful monsters that did not exist before she created them. For example, Ultimecia manifested and extracted Griever from Squall's subconscious mind. She found Griever to be Squall's conception of the most powerful force that could exist and brought him to life for battle against Squall himself. Moreover, there is her ability to cast Time Compression, which she used to begin absorbing all existence. She additionally has the ability to invade, possess and control an individual's mind; allowing her to steal thoughts, knowledge and magic. She is also able to use this ability on herself. For example, after she transforms into her ultimate form, Ultimecia reaches into her own mind, and manifests what in her mind is the ultimate Black Magic spell, Apocalypse. Her ability to manipulate objects and matter has also led to some interesting Junction forms. Ultimecia has also demonstrated a keen strategic and diplomatic mind, such as being able to convince the President of Galbadia to employ her as the nation's diplomat as well as enticing Seifer Almasy, normally a hostile youth, to devote himself to her. In Dissidia Final Fantasy she also casually manipulates Kuja into performing for her ends. She is then seen trying to convince Sephiroth to join her and Emperor Mateus in their quest of taking control of the world from Chaos and Cosmos. Her intellect is also demonstrated by her sheer ability to conceive time paradoxes and work within them to attain her goals of a time and world compressed into what she conceives to be a perfect world. I only see the Master of Fiction, Eldrad and Buu giving her a hard time on Kevin's team. However, with the combination of her, Earl and the others on Zreth's team. Yeah, he wins. Tough and close, but I think Zreth pulls it off. Lot of power on his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 She is very powerful. What she can do... Ultimecia is an immensely powerful and highly developed Sorceress with her personal power focusing on time and space manipulation. This power is shown in the final battle, where she will often cast spells that involve bending space, such as Bio, Quake, and Meteor or absorb fallen party members into time in the battle against her. Furthermore, she has a devastating magical attack that is similar to Heartless Angel called Hell's Judgement. With Hell's Judgement, Ultimecia can reduce the entire party's health to one point, and she employs it very often in the final battle. Ultimecia also has the ability to manifest and give life to subconscious thoughts and inanimate objects. This includes giving life to Guardian Forces and powerful monsters that did not exist before she created them. For example, Ultimecia manifested and extracted Griever from Squall's subconscious mind. She found Griever to be Squall's conception of the most powerful force that could exist and brought him to life for battle against Squall himself. Moreover, there is her ability to cast Time Compression, which she used to begin absorbing all existence. She additionally has the ability to invade, possess and control an individual's mind; allowing her to steal thoughts, knowledge and magic. She is also able to use this ability on herself. For example, after she transforms into her ultimate form, Ultimecia reaches into her own mind, and manifests what in her mind is the ultimate Black Magic spell, Apocalypse. Her ability to manipulate objects and matter has also led to some interesting Junction forms. Ultimecia has also demonstrated a keen strategic and diplomatic mind, such as being able to convince the President of Galbadia to employ her as the nation's diplomat as well as enticing Seifer Almasy, normally a hostile youth, to devote himself to her. In Dissidia Final Fantasy she also casually manipulates Kuja into performing for her ends. She is then seen trying to convince Sephiroth to join her and Emperor Mateus in their quest of taking control of the world from Chaos and Cosmos. Her intellect is also demonstrated by her sheer ability to conceive time paradoxes and work within them to attain her goals of a time and world compressed into what she conceives to be a perfect world. I only see the Master of Fiction, Eldrad and Buu giving her a hard time on Kevin's team. However, with the combination of her, Earl and the others on Zreth's team. Yeah, he wins. Tough and close, but I think Zreth pulls it off. Lot of power on his team.Okay cool then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 1. Eldrad (40k) vs. Ultimecia Okay, Ultimecia pulls Slaanesh out of his subconcious and then Junctions herself to Slaanesh after Slaanesh devours Ulthuran. So she becomes Junction Slaanesh Ultimecia 2. Super Buu vs. Kid BuuThis will be a tie for a while but when Juntion Slaanesh Ultimecia comes over she Junctions Super Buu onto Kid Buu making Junction Buu. 3. Big Boss ""The Greatest Warrior of the 20th Century" vs. Millennium EarlSo many ways Big Boss can die. 4. Anakin Skywalker (Dark Jedi version) vs. Wesley/The Killer (Wanted)Wes P90's Anakin in the face. 5. The Master of the Land of Fiction (Dr. Who) vs. SinestroThe master makes a dragon pop up or something and eats Sinestro. 6. William Corvinus (Underworld) vs. Agent Orange (Orange Lantern/DCcomics)He William Corvinus gets nuked or de-atomized or converted into a Orange lantern and becomes under the control of Agent Orange 7. Master Asia (in Gundam/"Undefeated of the East") vs. DoomsdayMaster Asia very tough but look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68U_94ynX94...feature=related seeing that he's death proof I don't think he's Doomsday proof. 8.MotLoF Vs. Juntion Slaanesh Ultimecia, Junction Buu, M Earl, Wes, Willam Corvinus (Orange Lantern), Agent Orange, DoomsdayNo matter how strong he is he is going to be stomped on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 1. Eldrad (40k) vs. Ultimecia Okay, Ultimecia pulls Slaanesh out of his subconcious and then Junctions herself to Slaanesh after Slaanesh devours Ulthuran. So she becomes Junction Slaanesh UltimeciaOk, I'll stop you there. Bad Idea... If that Slaanesh is anything like the Real Slaanesh then you've just lost Ultimecia. Both contestants are lost then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Ok, I'll stop you there. Bad Idea... If that Slaanesh is anything like the Real Slaanesh then you've just lost Ultimecia. Both contestants are lost then.Anything she creates is under her control so it not that much of a problem for her or she can Junction themselves right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 She's not controlling Slaanesh. She'd be lucky not to be left a husk of incoherent worthless jibberish after attempting to summon Slaanesh. It would be one of the worst moves of her career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 She's not controlling Slanaash. She'd be lucky not to be left a husk after attempting to summon Slanaash. It would be one of the worst moves of her career.Well yes but it won't be the real Slaanesh it's just a copy with the power but not the mind it would be under her control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Well it's a tie now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Can anyone tell me how strong Ultimecia will be if she Junctions with Slaanesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 She'd be a god. However, I'm afraid even the copy of Slaanesh would drive her insane. I'd suggest not even trying to bring anything Slaanesh related to existence. Besides, Slaanesh is the god of desire. Ultimecia has a lot of that and "Those who yield to temptation becomes her slaves." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 She'd be a god. However, I'm afraid even the copy of Slanaash would drive her insane.Hmmm...Well I don't want a crazy Ultimecia slaughtering her teammates so what else would Eldar be afraid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 She's not controlling Slanaash. She'd be lucky not to be left a husk of incoherent worthless jibberish after attempting to summon Slanaash. It would be one of the worst moves of her career.It would be the last move of her career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well I guess she can just pull out what he would think of as the most powerful thing and use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yeah, that would probably be one of the Chao gods. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well I guess she can just pull out what he would think of as the most powerful thing and use that.That would be Slaanesh... The Warp God would then come forth and devour both of their minds, bodies and souls... and then if the whim struck him he would continue to devour the other fighters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 That would be Slaanesh... The Warp God would then come forth and devour both of their minds, bodies and souls... and then if the whim struck him he would continue to devour the other fighters...Okay, so if Ultimecia makes a copy Slaanesh nobody wins...So what if she pulls some random thing that he fears out of his mind and uses that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Holds Zreth down..."Stop hitting yourself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Holds Zreth down..."Stop hitting yourself."LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Okay, so if Ultimecia makes a copy Slaanesh nobody wins...So what if she pulls some random thing that he fears out of his mind and uses that.All the things that he fears would probably pwn half of everyone's teams if your lucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 All the things that he fears would probably pwn half of everyone's teams if your lucky...Okay so since Junction'ing with something will end horribly so lets go back to time stop or reality warping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Oh wait she can just make a Greiver and become Junction Greiver Ultimecia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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