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On 1/27/2024 at 5:24 PM, DSkillz said:

Okay, here goes ... 

The Phantom's main job is to make sure the opera will keep the audience enthralled. While on the Polar Express, between the refreshments with accompanying show and the adventures that come along with the ride, the guests are certain to never have a dull moment. 

I'm not sure the Phantom's contacts could deal with all the logistical, monetary, etc. difficulties of transporting kids from all over the world to the North Pole would entail, especially since the Phantom tends to be the brooding, reclusive type to begin with.

The Phantom's main goal was to teach Christine to sing and marry her. Secondary and because of those motivation he sought to control who sang and keep his box, he did so through murder and extortion. On top of that keeping up the illusion that he was a ghost and staying hidden seemed to be his goals.

Very little if any of that is something the Polar Express could do. Even if his main job was to keep the Opera's audience enthralled. That's not something the Polar Express can do at the Opera House itself and stealing the Opera's audience isn't going to help with that goal.

The Phantom basically built the underground catacombs by himself and traveled the world building palaces, he has ties to national leaders. On top of a history with traveling shows, that traveled in northern Europe. So he's got experience with the cold, with massive logistical undertakings, and financiers if he needs them.

Remember the tracks existed separate from the Polar Express. So the Opera Ghost could just follow them.

3 hours ago, leroypowell3 said:

Uhh but Blackula is cool though. And he's my dude. And you should all vote for him because...

No way, Blacula, like literally sucks, and Heat Miser is totally hot. Vote for him.

Blacula is not entirely evil. He feels less, love, and remorse. He sacrifices himself after falling to save the people he loves.

Heat Miser is himself a reformed villain, so just the right kind of person to talk Blacula down.

Heat Miser is also powerful enough that he won't be intimidated by Blacula and infact can use force himself if needed.

The Phantom worked in a traveling show and has fairly powerful political contacts he could tap. So he could in theory mount a polar expedition. On the other hand I don't see any way for the Polar Express to hide in The Opera House.

On 1/22/2024 at 1:53 PM, DSkillz said:

Huh, Lightning hasn't found his way off Rainbow Road yet.  

He always seems to get this race against slower, tankier vehicles, too. Ratchet's not gonna get knocked around by the items and obstacles as much as Lightning, just like all of Lightning's Draft opponents on this track so far. Also, as a Transformer, he can probably use his robot mode to catch himself if he gets knocked off-track, which would be a much quicker recovery than having Lakitu haul Lightning back up. 

Whether all this is enough to counter Lightning's speed and handling is another matter. 

The question is how much faster is McQueen, if he's faster at all. His speed is somewhere between 200-220mph, depending on when. 

While I can't find a speed for Ratchet himself Hosehead and Autobot firetruck can reach 240mph. Remember Autobots aren't bound by the normal speeds of their vehicle forms.

Also of note the worlds fastest van hits speeds around 186mph and the world fastest first response/ambulance vehicle can go 245mph.

In other words Lightning may not have a significant speed advantage. He also doesn't have the reaction speed of the the Transformers who dodge lasers and rockets. This means Ratchet is going to perform better against obstacles and weapons.

Lightning may be a race car, but he is also brash and arrogant seemingly with a touch of PTSD, he is also gonna be out of his element in a giant space ring and with the destruction derby type elements of Mario Kart.

Remember it's not just a race there are weapons and obstacles.

An armed space race is actually more in the wheel house of a Transformer like Ratchet, then an Earth bound pure racecar like Lightning.

The Jawas may be sneaky, but the Jem'Hadar are genetically engineered super soldiers. Who can turn invisible, so the Jawas won't even win the stealth game.

Oh look it everybody's fourth favorite Robin, just ahead of Carrie Kelly, and forgetting about Stephanie Brown ( as one does ) against the People's Champ.

Not that it matters who Jason is, the Rock is gonna take the Boy Blunders helmet shine it up real nice, turn it side ways, and shove right up his opponents candy a$$.

3 hours ago, DSkillz said:

Part of me might think about paying to see that sing-off.  I could also see Snow Miser trying to get the Phantom to loosen up. 

The Phantom's not killing Mr. Ten-Below, though. 

You don't need to loosen the Phantom up, the guys a freak, like literal perform with a freak show freak.

If we are insisting on being boring in our interpretation though. The Phantom is a trained magician and experienced assassin and killer, with a penchant for stealth in a building full of magical items and devices.

He should be able to find something on the premises to take out Snow Miser and with his stealth he could find it and use it before Snow ever knew he was in the building. Even if Mr. Ten-Below knew Erik was coming.

30 minutes ago, Peypeypeypey said:

Lol I gotta respect the grind there. I'm all for the loose interpretation of the prompt. I don't agree with it, but I love it

Come on over to the "loose interpretation" it's way more fun, trust me and it makes for a more interesting match then just saying Snow Misers is immortal or some boring AF answer like that.

16 minutes ago, Nesh said:

I think it means kill, I'm not even sure Snow Miser can die.

Sure, but The Phantom kills everytime he shows up. In more ways then one.

So wether you say he kills it or he slays. Your right either way.

The Phantom of the Opera totally 'slays' have you heard his voice compared to Snow Misers.

Given the general difference in tech level and computing power. Rommie should take the win here.

2 hours ago, Z451 said:

To play Devil's advocate, Mr. Clean was based on a Navy Sailor, and while we don't know to any extent what rank or training said sailor had, I would believe that in one sense, a Navy sailor would be more organized and trained than the Kool Aid Man in terms of disaster recovery and the like.

That being said, both would have to overcome their impulses in order to win this challenge at all.

Kool-Aid Man had a comic run as a superhero, where he led a team, fought monsters, and saved people. So this scenario is not new for him.

2 hours ago, DSkillz said:

They would be do well at each other's normal jobs. The Phantom would probably try to make a more traditional Christmas than Jack did, but I'm not sure the Halloweentown residents would take to that approach so well or if the Phantom could do it with as much zeal and charisma as Jack. 

The Phantom is natural and trained showmen before he came to the Opera House, he was part of a traveling show where he gained esteem as a magician, ventriloquist, and illusionist. On top of having and unearthly singing voice.

In other words he can do charisma and zeal. The better question is can Jack bringing himself to live in isolation?

Phantom understands Christmas better than Skellington and understands the macabre about as well so he should be able to pull off any sort of Christmas Halloween town wants.

1 hour ago, IKA said:

Right someone who could clean up the mess?

Clean up normally takes place after an evacuation. Trying to do it during an evacuation would slow things down.

14 hours ago, IKA said:

Last thing you want to do after an attack is destroy what little left is holding a roof above your head. Sounds like a quick way to have a building come down on top of you.

We are talking about evacuation, not rebuilding. After an attack normal routes are gonna be blocked and people are gonna be trapped in the rubble. You need someone who can move through those obstacles.

Running a town where he'd be accepted and putting on a Christmas celebration. Is something the Phantom should be able to do. In fact he's gonna do the later better than Jack did.

Staying hidden and "protecting" the theater and the people he cares about. Jack is to impulsive and likes people and exploration to much.

Mr. Clean is gonna be to busy trying to pick up after the monster to evacuate anyone. The Kool-Aid Man on the hand will be breaking through walls and debris and saving people. It's kinda his thing. He can also hydrate them along the way. Not to mention pep them up to keep moving with sugar.

3 hours ago, Pizzaguy2995 said:

I meant grappling. I also like how you disagree with me in this comment and then immediately argue for Sting in the comment below mine. Wtf?

Clinching is grappling.

To your question. I disagree with your characterization of boxing in general and Drago specifically, but agree with your proposed outcome out come of the match. At least regarding who wins.

These aren't mutually exclusive ideas.

Drago may be stronger and hit harder, but Sting as a striker and grappler has the better skill set for this match and has dealt with super strong opponents with KO punches before, like The Big Show.

Sting should win, but it's gonna be a hell of a match.

6 hours ago, Pizzaguy2995 said:

As I said in a previous post boxing does not translate well to MMA, as it does nothing to prepare you kicks, clinching, and take downs. Since we’re assuming the fighters are going in with the training they displayed in the films with no time to learn other fighting styles then I see Sting forcing Ivan to tap by the third round. Maybe the second.

Clinching exists in boxing and Drago should have some training in grappling from his time in the military.

Chewie can't really talk to Gaston and I'm not sure he'd listen even if they spoke the same language. As for Chewbacca convincing Gaston through physical violence, I'm not sure he can do that either. As I can't remember Chewie doing anything that puts him physically above Gaston.

I don't normally do this, but can someone explain this to me. Bruce Lee doesn't swim, so people vote against him in a triathlon, he gets basically no votes, but Michael Jordan, who similarly doesn't swim, somehow net five votes and a win. What happened?

Mind control is not new to Bossk, he has dealt with a number of force users and if he's getting paid. There's not much Grodd can say to dissuade him.