The Void

When has it been stated that Elketra is one of the best Martial Artist on the planet? I know she has been stated to be the best Ninja/Assassin. Also what does her mental abilities or any of her abilities besides her H2H skill has to do with anything. I'm not addressing any of those, but her Martial arts/H2H skills. People on this thread said DD will see Elektra as Shiva? How? They are completely different. What does Elketra's mental abilities or peak human abilities have to do with anything? The point is...Is Elketra as skilled as Shiva when coming to H2H. And this fight between Daredevil and Shiva will come down to who is the more skilled H2H fighter and that advantage goes to Shiva. While DD has his equipment and Radar senses for his advantage. And Shiva knows pressure points to and IMO I've seen better PP feats from Shiva. And Shiva masters different techniques yearly... I'll be fair and probably give round one to DD due to his radar senses.

Being a Ninja is totally different to being a Martial artist...To my knowledge Ninjas mostly focus on weapons/stealth and use martial arts as a secondary. Elketra mostly uses ninja weapons and sometimes her powers, while Shiva is strictly H2H and focused more on developing it more compared to Elketra.. Elektra hasn't even completed most of her martial arts training. Elektra's training as a ninja wasn't even complete and after being resurrected by the Hand the Chaste rejected her altogether. So how do they compare when coming to H2H? The personalities between Shiva and Elketra is so different that its not even funny. Their personalities are DIFFERENT. Elketra is not as ruthless as Shiva. Of course Elektra will have to be ruthless since she is a ninja. While Shiva was actually a villain that wouldn't even mind killing hero's and those close to her. Shiva was stated to be the most dangerous female in the DC universe by many heros/villains, even Batman stated so. And what does psychic ability and chi scream have to do with anything? I'm talking strictly H2H which this fight between Shiva and DD will mostly be about. You guys said Elketra is similar to Shiva, but how??? Their personalities and H2H skills are totally different. Also not only does Shiva have more experience than her, but Shiva is much more wiser and has shown better intelligence. Yet those same people can not proof that DD is as skilled as Batman when coming to Martial arts. Again to even say Elektra is comparable to Shiva...You will have to prove Elketra is as skilled as Batman when it comes to MA and that also goes for DD. Not saying DD loses this in a stomp. Because he does have his equipment and radar senses. How the heck will DD see Shiva as Elektra. When Elketra was love interest for him and he usually tries not to give his all to her.

Please tell me how Elketra is comparable to Shiva. Elketra is a ninja, while Shiva is a skilled martial artist and assassin. Two different things. Not only that but Shiva is much more ruthless than her and has trained far longer than her. Also saying that Elketra is Marvels top MA is not even enough. Is Elektra even comparable to Batman? DD will not any similarities between Elektra and Shiva. Both have completely different fighting techniques. Does Elektra know body reading languages that is on the level of Shiva's? The only similarities is that they're females. -__-

Shiva and Elektra are not comparable...

Yes a sparring match! Not a serious FIGHT. Yes...I have payed attention to the WHOLE issue since I have posted the scans multiple times. Lady Shiva was basically training him and I have proof. Tim Drake even stated "Next time she'll have me for lunch." Again she was basically training him, I doubt she was even fighting serious since she was even giving him some advice before the fight even began. And Tim distracted her with his staff. Again...In the scans you can read for yourself that she was even giving him advice/tips. Which proves that she was training him in a way. I don't care what the handbook really states since there are scans that challenge it. Show me Tim beating Shiva not holding back or not enhanced by some drug. The scans that I posted does not in anyway prove Tim is as skilled as Shiva, but that he can get lucky shots when distracting her and when she is not even going at her fullest. Batman can easily do the same thing. But lets see what happens when both Tim and Batman have to face her in a real H2H fight and Shiva not holding back. Also need I remind you that Daredevil's own trainer Stick has stated Daredevil is still 'sloppy'? Daredevil has not even finished most his training with Stick and when Stick came back, Stick still considered him sloppy. Shiva on the other hand masters fighting styles yearly and has DC top MA's like Batman begging her to train them. http://i151.photobuc...LadyShiva56.jpg http://i151.photobuc...LadyShiva57.jpg http://i151.photobuc...LadyShiva58.jpg http://i151.photobuc...LadyShiva59.jpg Shiva is clearly more skilled than Daredevil when it comes to Martial arts. To be fair...I didn't even say Shiva stomps.

Tim Drake never beat Lady Shiva. She was training him. I've said this and posted scans of that situation a million times... My god...

Agreed.

Zeus...

I agree with it feeling like a DC fighting game. But I just love the specials in the game, Doomsday special is just freaking awesome. He freaking pounds you through the Earth, Me and my friends laughed at the part. I'm definitely getting this game since Black Adams in it. All this game needs is Darkseid then its really COMPLETE.

So far I'm loving the demo of Injustice...

ROFLMAO!!! OMFG!!

Loved the finale.

I will when not lazy and I'm sure xLEGACYx wouldn't mind.

Okay I'll make the match soon.

Nice setup.

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This is last day for voting.

Panther is better than both with prep...Just saying.

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@Corvette1710 Good debating. The true underdog of this tourney.

Tired as *vulgarity* lately.

Sorry I took long to respend to post. Been tired as *vulgarity* lately. Anyways. Fair point. But Panthers cloaking device and teleporting gives Panther the bigger advantage. That was just to show that Cass can move just as or faster than Cap. Cass has beaten meta humans before just like Cap. She almost killed Supergirl. ALso toy have not porven that Cap has better reaction speed compared to Cass, you have not shown Cap being able to dodge bullets point blank with a gun to his forehead. Again, I'm talking about reaction speed. Her body reading language is going to make it hell for Cap... "She can read your intentions before you move." ^^^"The fight was over before her feet touched the ground." Also Cass can use pressure points on Cap like she did to this physically strong Meta Human. I know, I was just saying she looked at the bullet at the last minute, after it was fired. Anyways lets take this to a vote.

Frank will still have to land a hit. Panther can easily teleport away to dodge it. The scan is impressive. But I bet Cass can see faster too. She was stated to have meta human agility and reflexes. If she can dodge bullets at point blank than that must be true. When have we seen Cap move like this? In terms of speed/agility/reflexes Cap really doesn't have a advantage over her. I'm just saying that for now. ^^^Read this...It was by the writer. He was completely invisible. Also how will he keep Panther at bay when Panther can just teleport right behind him? Panther can in this quick by teleporting right behind him and ending him with a dagger or anti metal claws. Panther wouldn't even have to kill Frank with the daggers. The daggers have two levels. One for stunning and paralyzing and the second one for killing. Impressive. But I believe Cass can do the same. Right here stated to have super speed. Her pupil were toward the bullet at the last minute when it was inches away from her...

Well when its donated it does look like a gas. And I did some research....Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I said its like a smoke. I think the filters in the suit can stop the explosion. Also in the scan I posted, it did say the suit used 'chemical gates' as filters. So may be the chemicals in the suit would stop it? Also Panther has survived a car explosion and the suit wasn't even burned. I'll post scans if you like. Good point about the traps. But Panther has a cloaking device now. I wanted to at that. http://i1050.photobu...zps9fb1b9c3.jpg http://i1050.photobu...zps3bf07fff.jpg ^^^Now it would probably be even more difficult for Frank, because now Panther has the attack of surprise advantage. As for the energy daggers, Frank would have to be on the move a lot. As for the grenade, Frank would have to hit him first since Panther would be moving around a lot. Anyways I'll BRB to continue have to go somewhere yet again.