Indolent

Second and Third Wish might not work, especially the second - you're forgetting the limitations of the dragons.

Get the heck out of here with your sappy crap

WHATEVAH U SAY

Pre Crisis Superman can travel trillions of miles in an instant. Uh... not seeing how she would be able to? Divination? Actually as we see SS4 Goku is more powerful than Black Star Shenron (His own power actually reverses Black Star Shenron's actual magical affliction of reducing Goku's age, reverting him to a child state. It was stated it'd require another wish from Black Star Shenron to permanently reverse it... and his SS4 actually reverts it temporarily as per the obscene power being channeled in that form), and that we know the Dragons' strengths/powers correlate with the strength of their creators (The Nameless Namek was obscenely powerful), the combination of Shenron, Black Star Shenron, and Porunga still isn't enough for the likes of Pre Crisis Superman The Dragons could, sure... if anyone actually gets the idea to do so despite the villains' presence. Frieza? He's gonna hop on the dragons. There's going to be infighting, and Superman could easily end this instantly if he so desired. Given the state of the DBZ characters in one place, Asgard, and Superman's tendency to go to the extreme, likely he will do so.

No, what that means is there would need to be a presence of these things in Asgard in order for people to actually note these weaknesses. There aren't - and even if they find weaknesses out via the dragon - they have no means of producing it unless the Dragon specified such down to the scientific detail...beyond that - they would need Porunga and amidst the chaos... >.>

I can see Gero looking for weaknesses actually but that would require the presence of red suns and kryptonite. >.>

...Not even Buu? O,o Oh wait, I'm thinking Fat Buu or Kid Buu - maybe Super Buu, yeah. And why would they look for it anyways - they're likely to resort to doing similar actions as they've done in canon more likely anyways. IMHO.

Because one was an arrogant ass who thought he was the most powerful entity in the universe, Cell was a narcissistic *vulgarity* thanks to Frieza and Vegeta's genes (he apparently never got any of his or Piccolo's brains >.>), Buu... I don't really need to elaborate on him O,o, and Babidi was a little turd that was reliant on Buu and look where that got him =D SMURT VILLAINS THEY ARE NOT

Because the Saiyans will interfere I believe. Granted humans/Piccolo could still intervene but I digress with all the chaos in the background.

Shenron and Black Star Shenron cannot exist at the same time though o,o And no one's ever gotten the idea in DBZ to do so, not even friggin' Piccolo. And if the Shadow Dragons are around - no one's using the Black Star Balls for their infinite power - there's going to be infighting - likely the weak ones will be murdered by the stronger ones, i.e. Piccolo, Krillin, etc, get mangled by Omega Shenron - having the entirety of the universe turns this more into a friggin' free for all. Buu ain't going to be working with anyone. Nope. Cell's going to be too damn a narcissist to lend a finger and will pester Goku. Welp there went a a large chunk of Asgard cuz of a certain raging legendary Saiyan... Holy crap, who turned all those Asgardians into fat jubbly demons. Dammit Janemba. Also I did some research... Silver Age Superman was more prone to doing rude shit unlike his New Earth version (much, much nicer). He's also not hesitant to utilize his powers in that respect too.

And how will a Red Sun be of any use if no one know Superman's weaknesses? You seemed to ignore my last post there.

That's Dabura, Demon King of the Demon World.

That would require knowing his weaknesses beforehand though?

1 and 2 wouldn't work - they'd need to bypass the quasi-telekinetic field comprised of Superman's will that covers the entirety of his body (i.e. why his clothes go mostly unscathed unless he's met with equally powerful entities. It also applies itself to objects he decides to deadlift/carry along, protecting them.) Buu nor Baby lack the power to break through this. Also I am aware the tactile telekinesis was for post crisis but I seriously don't see any other explanation in regards to the planets remaining intact when he pulls them through space. >.> If he doesn't have the field, his durability and speed still renders him relatively safe regardless. 3 has a severely low chance of working: Superman vastly outclasses Ginyu in speed, reflexes and such - not only that but he's liable to disable Ginyu before he even begins to spout GINYU. 4 Pretty sure Superman would effortlessly resist this let alone disable Garlic. 5 Spike's beam would need to hit and Spike the Devilman is seriously underpowered in comparison to everyone else. I'm also positive there's a chance the beam would fail. Also pretty sure his heart, being that he's insanely durable, would resist exploding And Bergy - Spike the Devilman is one of Baba's fighters who can kill evil beings with a beam that explodes their heart. He's remembered for the fact that Goku defeated his beam due to his pure of heart attribute.

Wat. Pre Crisis Superman? Jesus christ. Ahhh poot.

Nanananananana Batmannnnnnn

Swollen. Bruised. Purple. Blue. Fondled by a Doctor in an Examination. Still have Reproductive Capability.

Yeah - my father bought one in horrendous condition and jury rigged it to the point that it ran around 80MPH. Keep in mind, it was one of those extremely low to the ground models with just essentially thin as hell steel plating between your ass and the ground. The model was a kid's version. The brakes didn't work so well and there was no protection in the event something happened. So dangerous for a 8 year old and yet fun =D

Did you want me to elaborate further on that particular instance? Cuz I totally could do that

Heh - actually lemme clarify - the testicles were the result of a go cart incident (I flipped it going 80 MPH around upwards a steep hill). Just misremembered. And the log incident was the result of swerving to avoid hitting one of my dogs >.> Just practice and take it easy - up it up occasionally when you feel confident enough. I've seen plenty peers try to go into it too fast (usually with amusing results). And of course, full-body equipment for that sort of thing - I'm kinda lucky I survived cuz I didn't have those >.>

I used to ride dirtbikes quite often when I was younger. I never really broke anything or incur anything serious but I did incur bruised testicles (Don't ask), and drove into the side of my cabin house's outcropping logs, which scraped my skin off and left serious bruising. There's been a few instances where I've crashed and been banged up (as anyone will have indubitably).

Dunno, I'd think being able to duel with a friggin armored Mountain Troll and actually parry blows and whatnot is a notch above being able to close a stone door? o,o Since you know, twas a mountain troll that busted through said stone door as well I think suffices to say Boromir certainly comes close to Aragorn in strength if the case need be?

The horse sized duck

It took place in 1962, First Class did. Extrapolate from that and AvP's point and you can have some idea.

Okay maybe this guy