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Yeah, I am. The most skilled version of the turtles doesn't even come close, sorry. That Mirage turtle comic up there you posted, well like you said...he was able to keep up with Batman. Shiva humiliated Batman with ease in a 1v1 as shown up there by IKA, but even more than that? A separate time, she on her own fought Batman, her daughter Cassandra(both of whom could 4v1 the ninja turtles by themselves), Batwoman, Clayface, Azrael, and Batwing all at once and was handily winning that 1 vs 6 fight.

Reed’s a bit better with pure science, but Doom might be able to enhance an invention of Reed’s with some magic…dunno. I’m undecided right now

Fair enough. Well, see, I'd have to disagree there. I'd say the gap of skill between Shiva and Michelangelo, is quite large. Killer Croc is untrained and tbh, I would say all of the ninja turtles are closer in skill level to Killer Croc than they are to Shiva. Like yeah, the jump from Killer Croc's level to the ninja turtles's level is quite a gap, but I believe the jump from the ninja turtles's level to Shiva's level is even moreso.

Also found a couple examples of Shiva's speed directly No explicit bullet dodging there but goddamn, she demolished those poor guys in ten freaking seconds. This one though, looks like she ducks under a bullet? And has much worse fashion sense but that's not as important lol - https://imgur.com/a/xh3vy

Yeah, though I don't have one of Shiva, but yeah it shows Shiva can hurt people with remarkable toughness(and again she handicapped herself in doing so and still made it look real easy) Took him a while to dig himself out of the rubble, for sure, but when he did he wasn't worse for wear.

He doesn't have the skill, no, but that's not what I was comparing between them, and yeah he can take that. And I don't have any specific examples of Shiva herself doing it, though I'm pretty sure there's likely examples out there in comics I haven't read, but I'm scaling her off her daughter. Her daughter, who she has both beaten and lost to in the past, and so the two are in my mind comparable in skill and speed, and she has demonstrated the ability to dodge bullets with ease, as below:

No, the skill gap is a lot bigger than the stat gap, and even if it weren't, the stat gap is not going to matter. Lady Shiva and her daughter Cassandra are often on the same level, trading victories and Cass has casually dodged gunfire before, even point blank, I wouldn't be surprised if Shiva does the same, and Shiva has also demonstrably owned Killer Croc while barely even trying(she kept one arm behind her back the whole time and it only took like a few moves) and I'd say he's comparable in toughness and strength to the ninja turtles.

Yeah.

Can...can Pennywise even leave Derry?

Yeah, please, if anything the Predator will be done with the horde of walkers after an hour, two tops. The stabby bois from Klendathu survive a lot longer than that.

Mhm yeah, his show was the crocodile hunter but Steve Irwin was really more a wildlife educator/zookeeper/documentaries guy than that, and Sandy I think has the smarts and skills to manage to play effective cat and mouse for just a week.

🤣haha another one

Lady Shiva...yeah, Michelangelo is pretty much toast. Shiva's up there with the usual suspects of best martial artist in DC(Connor Hawke, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon, Bruce Wayne etc) with whose on top fluctuating on any given day...Shiva at her worst is still by a wide margin superior to the best version of Michelangelo.

lmao umpire really spitting out classic comic book matchups this round

Well well well, this is like a classic match up lol. Yeah nah I don't see Lizard managing to convince the man who lives for the hunt, to not hunt him.

White’s in good shape(at this point) but Cap is just on another level. And is also a lot taller than White, longer strides/rolls on the office chair because of that lol

Yeah, both finish with great times but Widow does it faster here imo

Brainiac 5 also has time travel, there’s really no shortage of stories with the Legion of superheroes traveling to the past or bringing people to the future haha. They may not be killer but I’m sure Brainiac 5’s built many advanced bots himself, so the only real advantage there from those is the ruthlessness. Still, he’s Brainiac 5. Kang’s a remarkable foe but I’m leaning Brainiac here

Ah tough pull here with this cosmic Amazo, especially since if I recall right, Lex Luthor and…I think it was the Atom? I don’t know, one of the highly intelligent members of the justice league, used a weapon to try and change Amazo’s programming and the golden boy was just like “an intriguing and admirable attempt, but I am immune to that now”(no idea how but yeah)

lol just picturing Nightwing’s reaction to the bear again…he’s so whelmed. If you know you know. Anyways, he narrowly prevailed against Green Arrow in this scenario and I think he has an easier time here. Silk’s good but he’s better

Well, both have hiveminds/group thinking (to a certain extent with the death troopers) and the potential to infect the Yautja I think but the zombies are overall weaker since they’re mostly human stormtrooper zombies, being less strong and resilient than flood turned aliens/humans. Moreover the flood takeover is significantly quicker(if that option is even allowed here) taking seconds through an infection form or airborne means, rather than the hours or even days with the zombie plague. I think the Flood prove the harder horde to hunt, and gotta say a Yautja flood sounds really terrifying

I'll take things that didn't happen for 100 dollars, Alex. Granted, the other ones did, but that's exactly my point, neither of them wins if you play it like that lol.

Two things. One, that is a hilariously narrow view of Tony Stark, who does much, *much* more than just make weapons that go boom or appeal to the military minds. Secondly, okay, the judges could be like “hmm hey I’m not sure we should be supporting the often mentally troubled past abuser who once made a robot whose mind was based off his own brain patterns and said robot then decided humanity should be made extinct.”

I stand corrected on that point.

The Doctor sure has the potential to create a horrible monster but would he